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[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago

Keeping it at bay? The fuck are you smoking

[–] [email protected] 80 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Democrats do actively pass progressive reform, so who is really being duped? You who lets emotions and propaganda control your political outlook, or people who actually attempt to fight back by electing Democrats?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The biggest threat the progressive polices is the lefts inability to recognize their being played, not by the Democratic Party but by the media who baits them into blaming the party for things it cannot control.

The easiest mark is the one who thinks themselves too smart to be a mark.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You guys can't be serious. When the Democratic Party throws up their hands and says "it's out of our control" instead of actually fighting for progressive reform, you actually believe them? After everything we've seen? What will it actually take for you to realize the Democrats aren't fighting for us?

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 week ago (8 children)

We're never going to badger the current DNC corporate shills into working for the people... They'll need to be replaced before we can hope to stop the ratchet effect and start making real change

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’m sold. Let’s do it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

First step is making a place everyone can access and start collecting information... Any idea how to do that? I'm afraid I'm mostly tech illiterate

2nd step: we need to map out who actually gets to vote for DNC leadership/membership

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It's more important to just build community. It will be a slow waking up for everyone to realize elections are no longer free and fair. A strong community will form a net to catch all these people when they finally do come around.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago (7 children)

The DNC needs the far right. Without it, their candidates would have to run on actual positions, rather than just "Vote for us because we're not Republicans."

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The DNC hires the same consultants for running campaigns that the RNC use so naturally they will all veer right. The DNC has stopped trying to represent the people and wants to get their turn at the money funnel.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Go listen to the Harris campaign featured on pod save america. These losers think they made the right moves, every time, and have no vision for the future that does not acquest to the right wing agenda.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As an outsider, I'd like to remind you 'muricans that you don't have a democracy, much less a democratic party. You have two big groups that are kept afloat by big money in need of "favors"

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

This must be one of the nicest ways I've ever seen someone call a group of people morally bankrupt whores without using any of those words

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Dems have been right of center for my entire life. It's only because we have such far-right propaganda about socialism and such in schools that this seems normal.

Edit: when I made some comment / argument on a position in debate class when I was 15yo, the teacher whispered "socialist" to the class. I didn't even know what that meant. Whatever I said, it was sure to be about helping people and making the world more fair to end up with that comment.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Keeping at bay? The Republicans have the DNC by the throat right now.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (5 children)

"In my view, we need a strong Republican Party. We need a Republican Party that’s united." - Joe Biden

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Joe Biden, Primary Donald Trump As A Republican - SOME MORE NEWS (2019)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Well, yeah...

The only chance an unpopular neoliberal has of being president, is the threat that they're the only other option to Republicans.

Otherwise they'd never get any votes.

So neoliberals want Republicans to be the biggest threat possible.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

Similar to how Netanyahu's faction in Israel kept funding Hamas to justify their objectives on control of the state.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

"Ummmmm you're kidding right? Our owners would never allow that. I was thinking more like swoop in and openly become the new right! Nows our chance to take the economic left mask off and embrace our neoliberalism!"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We absolutely need to take advantage of the in-fighting, the DNC won't do it, but... we can get a Rich Vs. Poor narrative going...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Haha, no we can't. People enjoy the culture war way, way too much. Reddit and Lemmy are living proof. I see far more left vs right content than rich vs poor on here.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

What is your definition of left-vs-right when rich-vs-poor is an explicitly left-wing framing? Are you so caught up in the culture wars to think left-vs-right is exclusively cultural?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

I feel like the LotR "Cast it into the fire!" meme would also work, where the ring is "Rich People Money"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

How exactly are they keeping them at bay?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Just to be clear, it isn't up to DNC committes or legislators to defeat MAGA. That's our job. We have to go out and convince people to vote for the Democrats. Independents sometimes, too. We need to remove Maga from congress by defeating them in elections, us the citizens have to do that shit.

Stop blaming the solution for the problem we're making, WE need to DO THIS. This is OUR JOB.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

What?!

The entire point of the democratic party is to get it's members elected.

And theyre a private party with no obligations to anyone else.

It's the parties job to convince voters to vote. It's not the voters job to always pick the lesser of two evils, especially when both parties use every opportunity to become more "evil" by siding with the wealthy more than regular citizens.

WE need to DO THIS. This is OUR JOB.

We're not the ones who just wasted $1,500,000,000 and paid ourselves millions.

If it's our job why the fuck are we paying people fighting against us to do it poorly?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (4 children)

It's absolutely the Dems job to not put up pathetic, loser candidates

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They go to the same parties organised by the same billionaires and their kids go to the same schools and marry each other.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah the American flavor of left actually enables facism. Sadly it’s the same thing you see in places like Germany, UK, Canada, and France. France is relatively better.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"What would the donors think!?"

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