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[–] [email protected] 101 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago

Or the most famous example of Russian trigger-happiness, Korean Airlines 007.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That makes more sense than bird strike which led to control surface failure.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Birds? Drones? Same thing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

What I read (and who knows whether it'll turn out to be true) was that the plane was off it's planned course, likely due to a birdstrike, which lead to them entering an area that was actively expecting drone attacks, which likely lead to the Russians shooting it down.

But I guess we'll see when the report comes out.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

The location of active drone attacks is Grozny which was the intended destination. Maybe they approached the airport in an unexpected direction. But the shrapnel marks in the interior before the crash indicate an attack.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I wonder what Azerbaijan's reaction will be to this.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sternly worded letter? Ineffective bleating? Or maybe they'll escalate to expelling a diplomat or two.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

~~Well they are firmly within Russia's sphere of influence, so any action from them will be interesting.~~

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Azerbaijan is firmly in Turkey's sphere of influence, the same people who just game Russia the boot from Syria. Turkey will find an undermine Russia in return for their idiotic mistake. Russia will pay.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

You're absolutely right. I can't believe I mixed that up.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The incident, which killed at least 38 people and injured a further 29

How did 29 people survive this? The fuselage is in multiple pieces!

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

A plane (or part of a plane) can have the required aerodynamics for a "flat stall" (flat spin) or similar condition of falling. Depending on the plane (or part of it), and depending on whether a fire follows the fall - with incredible luck it's possible to come down at parachute-like speed and get away with injuries only.

However, if the plane was still controllable, then during an unpowered landing, pilots are supposed to trade speed for lift on the last moment. I guess they succeeded partly - they died, but folks in the tailward part stayed alive.

Being able to question survivors will help determine what happened, but the holes in surfaces look like air defense shrapnel to me. :(

[–] deranger 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The tail section separated on impact. There’s a couple videos, one from the outside showing people being rescued from the tail, and one from the inside from one of the survivors.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

For a moment I thought you said that they rescued someone from the inside of one of the other survivors

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

And pilot's skill

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Russian quality rocket... 50/50 kill rate.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I guess that's why Western airlines stopped flying over Russia.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Russia also banned them

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

Most likely they shot a missile deliberately, but misidentified the plane as a drone.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

I'm guessing they don't even get a "My bad" out of it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is joke, bro!! -Russian scumbags.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

*Is only joke, comrade.