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I've been looking to move on from membrane keyboards and go mechanical, but no matter where I look literally every mech has some form of obnoxious RGB lighting on it. Are there any that just.. don't have it?

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (14 children)

There are many, many non-RGB and even non-backlit keyboards. Where are you looking?

Try mechanicalkeyboards.com

Here is a basic mech kb with no added frills.
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/products/ducky-origin-black

Both of my own keyboards have the ability to disable the backlights—which is ideal, imo, so I can change my mind later.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago

Damn I'm bad at searching, then. Thanks!

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Just turn it off? Or keep it as a backlight, set it to one solid color you like with brightness turned down to be subtle but useful.

You don't need to keep it on rgb puke.

Snark aside, pick a keyboard you like for the size/feel/features and find out if its a software nightmare (razer) or not before worrying about rgb (just make sure rgb can be configured).

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (10 children)

I don't want my keyboard to have software configuration on my PC. It's a fucking keyboard. It doesn't need and shouldn't have an app.

[–] boletus 11 points 1 week ago

Ducky keyboards and most rgb mechs let you define the keyboard just with fn combinations. The software is for convenience

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

There are reasons you may want an app besides rbg: like if your keyboard supports macros, or if you have a hall sensor keyboard and you want to configure the activation and deactivation heights of your key presses.

But yeah, I kinda think rbg keyboards are lame

[–] prettybunnys 6 points 1 week ago

My Corsair keyboards do not require an app to be installed forever.

If I want to customize colors and whatnot I need the app, otherwise there are some presets on the keyboard itself.

If I customize the colors, I use the app and do it and then uninstall the app and move on. This is presumably MUCH easier than trying to do this without an interface directly on the keyboard which I suppose would be the alternative.

It WOULD be nice to just be able to edit a text file and copy it over.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Are there any keyboards without nightmare software. I'm coming from a Corsair keyboard and iCue sucks, and also the keyboard somehow stops controllers from working with Steam. (This is a known issue I've seen posts about on the official Corsair forum and they just won't fix it)

Edit: Thanks for the suggestions, I will look at some of those brands and see what they look like. I was originally planning on getting a custom one from Glorious Gaming cause I tried them at Best Buy and liked how they felt along with the replaceable switches and how customizable they are. But if anyone else has used this brand and has thoughts I would love to hear them.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Keychron uses QMK and can be configured through their website or software and I believe it just flashes new firmware so you don't have to keep the software running.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

My cheap-o ($40; uses a knock-off of CherryMX switches) mechanical keyboard doesn't have the option to turn the lights off or change how they display. It also doesn't turn off when the system is in sleep mode; only when totally powered off. :(

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Das keyboard? Keychron?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Then look for mechanical keyboards instead of gaming keyboards.

Go with the originals. Cherry, das keyboard, unicomp. Even Logitech has backlit but non-rgb lights.

Personally I'm using a Filco Majestouch.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (10 children)

I've never really understood why people specifically avoid buying products with RGB lighting. You can usually just set it to a color you like, or simply turn them off. Instead people don't buy the thing they want because of the "obnoxious RGB". Imo it's like not wanting to buy a nice speaker because when you tried it at the store the volume was too high or you didn't like the sample track it played.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 week ago

I can get not wanting to pay for a feature you actively dislike

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Is that software available for every platform? Whenever I hear Gamer(tm) features, I assume that the crap customization software for Windows only. I like my mouse, but I can only customize the layout in Windows.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

OpenRGB has support for a ton of devices; just make sure the keyboard is supported before buying it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Many higher-end keyboards run QMK, which is a custom firmware you can modify to make all kinds of customizations to your keyboard. And the best part is that it requires no client software, it's all on-keyboard

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The RGB inevitably resets itself and turns back on. Some of them are easy to turn off. Others require software (malware) you have to explicitly install to turn off the RGB.

My desktop has a lovely feature where if I turn it off the RGB turns BACK ON. And it turns out my case is just the right angle for the RGB to shine into my face when I’m in bed.

So yes I will pay more money to not get RGB.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Yeah they are really helpful at night when it’s dark. Mine is just set to a solid amber color.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Because you're paying for a gimmick instead of quality, and you don't wanna support products that dont do that, and in capitalism that's the only way to vote for what products get created.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

From what I have experienced the obnoxious RGB lighting is just a settings option. They usually come with a few different types of settings. On my system, I just turn it so it blinks white after I push the button. Makes it nice to glance down and see if I hit the right key sometimes. Otherwise I never use the flashy colors or stuff except to show off to someone who hasnt seen it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

In addition, most keyboards have the option to just turn it off completely.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, many if not most RGB keyboards default to some sort of rainbow theme and require Windows or Mac software to adjust them. This is pretty crap for Linux users.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

OpenRGB is apparently pretty good. Ckb-next works well if you have corsair gear.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

You can usually shut off the rgb lighting all together.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

Simple solution: turn off rgb. Usually can be done throigh software or theres a dedictaed fn key combination for it

Or you can go down the mech keeb rabbithole and start collecting nice boards

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Keychron makes some. I've had two of their keyboards and love both of them.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Check out https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/ They have a ton of non led-lit keyboards. I've ordered a few from them and their pricing and service is excellent.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Gotten two boards from them, great experience both times. Highly recommended

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

https://www.daskeyboard.com/

Das keyboard - excellent for years and years.

[–] wheeldawg 5 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I was about to post this.

I'm on my 2nd blank one from them now.

No RGB, not even any print on the keys. So nice

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[–] fibojoly 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You could just turn it off? Mine can make an animated rainbow, sure, but I can also just set it to mono-color for some backlight or altogether off.
Given that it cost me about 300RMB, the savings for no RGB were negligible.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You can absolutely get non-RGB mechanical keyboards, but depending on if you mean completely non-backlit keyboards or single color backlit keyboards determines how hard it is to find. If you want non-backlit, its easy, you see them all over the place. If you want single color, your choice is highly limited. mechanicalkeyboards.com has some from Vortex, Varmilo, and KBParadise.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Even a RGB board should have controls for color, brightness, and pattern. Shouldn’t be too difficult to turn it off or adjust the color to something more natural.

That said, none of the keyboards I currently own and use have anything more than an indicator LED.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Ducky makes fantastic keyboards and some have no lights. For the ones with lights, you can turn them off.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

You can just disable the lights?

The 8-bitdo keyboards are pretty solid choices without RGB, off the top of my head.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

I'm using Logitech MX Mechanical Mini. It has nice subtle lavender white backlight. Other notable thing about it is, it's wireless and comes back after inactivity in fractions of second. Something many wireless mechanical keyboards struggle with.

[–] knobbysideup 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I have a nice das for sale. You can't have my IBM model m though.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I bought one of the reproduction Model Ms and the only difference between it and my original is the case yellowing. It even has the steel plate in the bottom to give it heft. Buckling springs feel incredible and last forever. Only drawback is the noise.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Build your own how you like it.
You can almost choose like Legos.

[–] EpicMuch 5 points 1 week ago

look around ebay for a Model M keyboard

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