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As someone in the US it’s so easy to see so many depressing issues from the ravages of capitalism, to war, imperialism, and genocide. How can one care about these issues and hope for change without allowing themselves to be affected mentally?

I’ve been considering this for the past week, connecting it with Buddhist compassion towards the world and a need for mindfulness. But it’s so easy to fall into emotionlessness.

I’ve also thought through the world has always had issues and though some are getting much worse some are getting better.

I have gone to counseling before but they just make it an individual problem when it’s the world.

Edit: doesn’t have to be US centric. Just I’m writing from that pov

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Yeah for me the inescapable fact seems to be that humanity is currently facing a series of somewhat existential crises (climate change, looming authoritarianism, a global pandemic etc.) and we've utterly failed to meet each one by backsliding into selfishness and idiocy. With climate change especially there doesn't seem to be any fixing or avoiding it now, it's just a matter of how bad it's going to be, and a lot of predictions seem to be pointing towards "worse than we thought."

So I dunno, for me the logical response to that would be depression and cynicism. We knew it was coming, we had every chance to avoid it, we didn't, now we're fucked.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

It's indeed very difficult and my take is that the system wants us like this. To be depressed, full of fear and hopeless. Mainly of course through media.

What I considered one solution to fight back this is to discuss current events, solutions etc with a group of similar minded people. I don't mean join a cult etc. No far from it. But finding people with same concerns by openly discussing them will bond them into bigger groups and this helps a lot. Gives a sense of fulfilment and hope.

No fear. Act.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You raised a very good point that I did not realize until now. In the past 8 years we actually stopped talking about politics to others, because it became so polarizing.

We absolutely need to talk about politics if we want to keep democracy. Hardliners likely won't be converted, but at least, as you said, we should talk to like minded people.

Also, there's indeed no point to worry about things outside of our control, and worry about things we can affect. Threat the things that happen, that we can't control more as an obstacle that we have to deal with. Also support people who might have control and fight (governors, congress people, lawyers, judges, government employees, etc) so they know that aren't doing it for nothing.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

Correct. Also have in mind the all political sides, lefts, rights etc are all the same wearing different masks. True change comes from the base, from people, not from politicians placed by the system for people to vote. The base, the people when discuss and propose the most fit person to represent them , this is true democracy.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

How do you find leftist groups? I've been to a couple local democrat meetings and I just can't hang. It's just older people that are okay with the status quo. And I want to break things.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

See comment above. Don't fall into the trap of lefts and rights.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

Don’t fall into the trap of lefts and rights

That is a very important comment, thank you! We are just being played to perfection at the moment, peak divide and conquer. If we can refuse to play these games, maybe we can all learn and evolve.

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[–] agamemnonymous 8 points 2 days ago

Recognize the problems which you have the power to solve, and the ones you don't. Fix what you can with mindfulness and compassion, accept what you can't with emotionless calm. Reevaluate periodically.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

One answer could be for you to learn and practice philosophy alongside your learnings of world news. In particular, stoicism and stoic philosophy can allow you to watch these external events and consider them as they are, but with the understanding that these things reside outside of your control which preserves your feelings and self from being affected by them. It really brings more power to you through anything you go through or experience.

Philosophers Who Addressed This Question

1.) Albert Camus

• Work: The Myth of Sisyphus (1942)

• Argument: Camus argues that life is absurd, meaning it is full of suffering and chaos without inherent meaning. However, he suggests that one can resist despair by embracing life with defiance and by finding meaning through action and creativity.

• Example: Camus likens human existence to Sisyphus, who is condemned to roll a boulder up a hill only to have it roll back down. Camus proposes that we must “imagine Sisyphus happy,” finding joy in the act of persistence itself rather than in outcomes.

2.) Martha Nussbaum

• Work: Upheavals of Thought: The Intelligence of Emotions (2001)

• Argument: Nussbaum defends the idea that emotions like compassion and anger can be powerful motivators for justice but need to be tempered with rationality and self-care to avoid burnout. She advocates for a philosophy of practical engagement, where one maintains emotional investment in the world while creating boundaries to protect one’s mental well-being.

• Example: Nussbaum might suggest that instead of being overwhelmed by global problems, you focus on one specific issue you can influence—channeling compassion into tangible actions.

3.) Viktor Frankl

• Work: Man’s Search for Meaning (1946)

• Argument: As a Holocaust survivor, Frankl emphasizes the importance of finding purpose even in the face of suffering. He argues that meaning can be found in how we respond to suffering, whether through action, creativity, or how we endure hardships.

• Example: Even when facing immense global crises, Frankl might suggest asking, “What specific actions can I take to create meaning and contribute positively, no matter how small?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

One person cannot fix every problem in the world. But you can do your part.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Get involved in direct action in your community. Linking up with an org or group that does real community service and solidarity can help prevent you from feeling helpless and falling into that depressive spiral.

Help at a soup kitchen, provide homeless care kits, work a food/clothing drive, work with a crew to clean up gang tags from walls, pick up litter, build bird boxes, etc.

Seeing your community get a little better can do a lot for your mental health.

Remember that dispite the horrors of our species, we have accomplished some pretty incredible things. Just 200 years ago, we were still putting leaches on people and not washing our hands before performing medical procedures.

Now, we use microscopic lasers to correct blindness, cure certain types or deafness by implanting magnets into skulls, we can deliver and grow infants that are born several months too early to full term with minimal complications, and we can treat scores of diseases that would have been a death sentence just 200 years ago.

The Capitalist scum would have you believe that nobody would have done those things unless they made money doing it, but that's a lie and projection. They wouldn't have done that if it didn't make them money, because they are evil and without empathy.

But they don't represent the human spirit, what we are truly capable of when we work together for the common good.

The greatest accomplishments of our species aren't when we compete and fight each other. The greatest accomplishments happen when we cooperate with each other. Don't let the rich and powerful convince you otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

The cure for grief is action. Go to a DSA meeting, join a mutual aid society, volunteer at a community garden. Help out at a food pantry. Put the values you believe in back into the world.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Build community locally, spend time with friends and family cultivating relationships, do something generous for someone else, volunteer for a charity or activism, build an interest in a creative hobby that exercises your imagination. Follow your curiosity and our common interests in discovery and exploration through education and experimentation.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago (34 children)

That's the neat part, you don't.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago

I stopped using social media so much, the internet is moved by clicks and panic content gets them, but I find it overwhelming.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

I've blocked as much news out of my life as I can manage with the exception of some financial news. That includes blocking all the news communities on Lemmy. Things still slip through, but I also push myself to just ignore the bits that I still see and move on with my life. I'm much happier as a result. In terms of being aware of big news, if its a big enough deal, the fine folks here at Lemmy will create memes to let me know.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Let someone curate your news for you and don't doomscroll. I suggest PBS Newshour or one of the three major broadcast news programs.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Reading through all the other doomposts I felt obligated to share my view.

I read national/international news every day, and I'm still optimistic about humanity's future.

First off, I don't bother with local news at all. That really is just a cesspool of crime reporting. My dad summarized local news pretty well: "someone was murdered today, and heres some footage of blood on the pavement."

As far as national and international news goes, I read it because I think it's interesting and it's good to stay informed, but you can't use it as a barometer for how the world's doing, because news is just inherently negative. It doesn't mean the world is actually doing bad!

Which of the following do you think would get reported as a headline?

"Indonesia enjoys another year without a tsunami"

"Thousand killed as tsunami ravages Indonesian coast"

"Global poverty rate continues slow, steady decline"

"Millions at risk of starvation as African crops fail"

"Good news, no new deadly infectious diseases this year"

"Scientists raise alarm over spread of bird flu"

I think maybe it's helpful to think of the news not as objective reporting on the state of the world but rather like a police blotter that just logs bad things that have happened. And I think it's perfectly fine to tune it out and just live your life. If you're interested in a particular issue, like homelessness or an election maybe look at a less sensational information source like Wikipedia or something.

Also, just a little mini-rant: the two types of people who are most negative about the state of the world are religious missionaries and leftists. Because in order to convince you that the world needs a savior they have to convince you that we aren't on a path to do it ourselves. So, maybe steer clear of news on Lemmy as well haha

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Kinda sad to see the local news comment. I'm not sure if there's just a really bad local news station by you or there's some preconceived notions floating there, but you're more likely to remember the reporting of a death versus Grandma Martha's award winning plant that got recognition.

If you have other techniques for staying up to date with local and state events please share them, people need to be involved with local more than national (both are important, statistically you impact local more though). I have a couple of local news stations that I follow with their online postings. I feel it's important to comment and discuss on those because the only vocal people seem to be extremists on there, people need to see that there are like minded people nearby so it's not so weird to think differently to them.

I'm also confused by your religious missionaries and leftists comment, are you including the right-wing with religious? I can't argue that everyone doesn't push the whole savior narrative, just not sure why you singled out those two groups and left everyone else out lol.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

I look at it as it's going to get worse. Guaranteed. But, as long as I can stand up and be ready for the people who are going to be persecuted when they need it. Helping my local community. Just maybe I can make a difference to the people around me who need it.

Donating and volunteering works great.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Join a political party that aligns with the change you want to see. Also belonging to a few leftist orgs to effect your local city.

If your a right winger then sorry its a case of living with that low mood.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago

We are each just one person. We can't save the world, and it would be unreasonable to carry that burden.

But we each can save a small piece of it. A kind word here, a forgiving of slights there, and work in some patience & understanding for others.

Little things can make waves. And if Six Degrees of Separation remains true, your little deeds affect more people than you realize.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

One thing I do — and it sounds like you may have tried a version of this — is take media breaks (social media included). Go camping, read fiction, play video games or whatever floats your boat. You’ll almost always find that nothing major has changed and you were just dwelling on things beyond your control.

I’m not saying stick your head in the sand and pretend nothing is wrong. I’m more saying you can keep just as informed without wallowing in the news slop.

[–] _thebrain_ 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Simple: I'm just naturally deeply depressed and cynical, so there isn't a big difference

[–] GhiLA 4 points 3 days ago

born of it, moulded by it...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

As we scroll through the endless inbox of our news feeds, there's a tendency not to want to spend a lot of time on most items, because there's an endless stream of them. So we tend to process each thing quickly, react instantly, and move on to the next one. Training yourself to slow down the reaction part and focus on just observing the information first, can help not build up an ever-growing mountain of depression and cynicism.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You know you're going to die right ? How do you deal with that ? Philosophically, Stoicism has some of what I need for coping.

I'd also suggest that journalism is mostly interlectual trash that clutters your mind. Really important events will find their way to you.

An example, I'm not an American (i did live there back in the mid 1990s, before I relaised it wasn't for me) and I will likely Vote Green until I die. I'd prefer a livable biospbere and little better treament of minorities. Others prefer the opposite but their entreaties to get me to think their way won't work so why would I bother listening?

Journalism isnt really about reporting "news" but selling advertising.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I literally don't understand people having kids in this "climate". That's how cynical and hopeless I feel about humanity's future.

I wouldn't want to inflict that... The heat, the natural disasters, the risk of nuclear wars. The genocides considering multiple were or are active at any point (Palestine, Syria...). The fall of journalism...

Many things I discuss with my friends but nobody could ever dream to fix. So all this shit stays with you. And seeing how our politics are reacting to climate change, this is lost. Because everything else is pointless if you don't have a place to live.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Compassion fatigue is a thing. You can try for some Buddhist state of Nirvana that would likely take a lifetime to pursue... Or you can start curating your input. Stop doom scrolling, look for positive science news and the like. There's plenty of positivity out there still, it's just not algorithm friendly.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I have a personal petty war against the corposlop extortions in my life, I know it won't stop them or bring about a revolution or smth, but at least I can be an example to others that they need us more than we need them and it makes me at least feel that I have some control, some things that I can take back from being corrupted.

So far I have:

  • Stopped buying all fast fashion and buy far fewer clothes in general mostly off Etsy back in the day or indie online retailers
  • Cancelled my subscription to Netflix for me and my gf, replaced with Jellyfin
  • Cancelled Amazon Prime and stopped shopping at Amazon altogether alongside getting my friends off Wish, Temu etc.
  • Stopped using all food delivery and ride-sharing apps
  • Stopped eating fast food and at big chains
  • Moved most my grocery shopping to Co-Op
  • Eliminated all corporate and/or algorithm driven social media from my life (Insta, FB, Reddit, Discord, LinkedIn, YT (only via self-hosted proxies/ublock/sponsorblock/dearrow).
  • Stopped using corpo LLMs, using only my homebrew refine of Mistral 7B sometimes
  • Stopped using Chrome, cancelled Google one and my sub to GDrive
  • Almost stopped using Windows
  • Replaced almost all daily use software with FOSS alternatives
  • Almost entirely stopped buying any tech that isn't used and/or refurbished and/or old/junkyard material

Next steps are:

  • Replace ISP router with junkyard rescue gear with FOSS software, mite b getting some from work soon
  • Cancel Spotify as my last remaining subscription service (I have personal playlists I need to backup)
  • Get rid of Google accs and host my own email
  • Ascend past smartphones (already use only old flagships for less than a hundred bucks)

I feel like it's still all just in the consumption framework and highly individualistic, but it helps me cope, it's an outlet for anger that has bettered me as a person in every way imaginable.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is an excellent list, that proves that as an individual there are things you can do to feel right about the world surrendering us. I'll add, tho I'm pretty sure you are probably doing it already, that I don't buy anything from Nestlé, Coca Cola, etc like you're avoiding amazon. Not buying from megacorps goes hand-to-hand to not using meta/google/apple/microsoft services I think.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Yeee. I try my best to avoid both Nestle and Coca-Cola (drink of the death squads is too good a song to not at least try to) but it's tough with how sneaky those bastards can get with all the brands they own.

Idk if I feel right exactly, I just feel more powerful, I can simply say "No" to being a victim of - or a participant in - what to me is an abuse of people, of lives on a scale beyond comprehension by the corporations. I can deny them the power they want so desperately to hold.

My only wish is more people were motivated to do this, whatever their expertise and possibilities and abilities, we could share so much if we shared the same goals.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

I'm only one person. I cannot fix all of these problems because these problems have to be fixed by a collaborative effort through a unified group to make anything we want work. I did what I thought I could by voting, I did what I could by spreading the message with my own voice about the things I know with what I saw going south in this country. But again, I can't fix everything.

So, I can't worry about things I have no power in fixing, as much as I'd like.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Act to change it and be at peace mentally knowing that you have dedicated your life to the struggle and you have done all you can.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

Easy, I was depressed and cynical before the election

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Watch the telly. Television tends to keep people somewhat informed but apathetic.

If they'd make people actually feel the horrors of the world, then people would stop watching. They know this so what they do is deliver it all in a way that promotes apathy. They do show you things but structure it so that the implicit message is: don't worry, do watch but whatever you do, don't worry, it's all fine, business as usual. "New report comes out, humanity is destroying the planet faster than ever before, biodiversity is plumetting [...] (jingle) there's a genocide going on and we are supporting it [...] (jingle) in other news: a baby panda was born at this zoo. [..] (jingle) now for the weather. . [..] (jingle) thank you for watching, see you tomorrow."

What you'll find is that despite you being somewhat aware of current events, most of the time it all feels like an abstract thing that doesn't really worry you. Seldom does anything you see on the telly push you to do anything. "Some important news just reached me through the telly, that means that I will now do so and so...", yeah right. I do nothing, maybe I walk to the fridge to get a soda, since ads do have calls to action. The news has a subliminal call to apathy. So I sit back down and continue to watch my entertainment.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ignorance is bliss - dogs are the happiest people I know. We should all strive to be more like dogs.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

Not for everyone but political activism is a good outlet, be it protests or volunteering to help the election campaign of the opposition when it comes round again. Make sure everyone you know lays the blame in the correct place when shit inevitably hits the fan.

Other than that, get off corporate social media, rage bait is the most effective content for driving interaction, corporate social media algorithms are designed to maximise interaction. You will always be shown the worst of everything on social media.

Similarly identify where your news is coming from and if it's coming from somewhere with a tendency to sensationalise. Cut anything like that out too.

It's important to be informed yes, but it's not essential to be aware of absolutely everything for most people, and if that's better for your mental health, you should prioritise reduction in consumption.

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