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The article seems to be shittily written in my opinion but I figure if you watch the video (about a minute) it will get the point across.

My question lies in, do you think this will benefit the health of the people moving forward, or do you fear it being weaponized to endorse or threaten companies to comply with the mention of Kennedy being tied to its future as mentioned in the end of the article

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[–] Sixtyforce 6 points 5 hours ago

Not subsidizing corn would be a good start. Why is HFCS shit cheaper than vegetables? Rhetorical question.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Bad nutrition both in the comments and the FDA. :-\

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

Care to elaborate on what you are referencing?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

This is a good try, but no I don’t see it helping. Those of us who can afford healthier choices already do so.

My simplification is that most people fall into one of these scenarios

  • just need the cheapest, possibly emphasize comfort food - doesn’t matter what’s healthy if it’s not in your budget
  • proportions and quantity. This won’t help
  • prepared food, whether frozen or restaurant, is a disaster.

I fall in to the second camp. I generally know what’s healthy and try to get it, but I don’t succeed with portion control or proportions. If the wrong things still dominate your plate, and your plate is too full, it doesn’t matter if some things have a healthy symbol.

I have no idea how to fix people like me, but for the first scenario I really believe we need a financial incentive. Back in the old days you ate a lot of vegetables because what came out of your garden was the cheapest food. Now thanks partly to government subsidies, corn syrup is both the cheapest food, and appeals to our evolutionary desire for sweetness. Let’s start by redirecting those subsidies to support a healthier food supply, but yeah I think we’re going to need a vice tax

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

I agree with most of your post except the the first 2 sentences.

We don't know what we don't know. You assume we already know what the healthy options are. But with 50 years of education propping up a food pyramid that was developed as a marketing tool by kellogs we don't actually know what's best for us.

We think grains & cereals are the best. These along with sugars have the highest caloric value. It makes absolute sense to eat these if food is scarce and difficult to get as they provide the best bang for buck.

But in modern society where food is easy to get grains and carbs aren't good.

So reeducating everyone using the understanding science has developed oner the last 50 yrs is hugely important. We've been feeding ourselves based on misinformation.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

OP, please reword title of your post to be an open-ended question.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Ah, I just clicked the copy button as I thought it was one of the communities that required the title to match the articles title. (Jerboa doesn't show community rules on the side). Sorry about that

Edit: done

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I know I'm an awful pedant who doesn't wurd gud either half the time, but you meant to say populace not populous in the title. Hope you don't mind me pointing it out :-)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Haha thanks. Nah I added that part in to make it fit the community rules I violated by accident. Thanks for the heads up.

Constructive critiques are always good in my book. (Wish I always kept that demeanor)

[–] [email protected] 108 points 1 day ago (33 children)

You know what would be way better than a symbol for "healthy" food would be requiring manufacturers to label food that fails to meet standards as "unhealthy." Bonus points if you tax it to death so it's no longer economically viable to sell garbage and label it "food"

Like, shit, the public perception is that I can't afford healthy food anyway. But at least if the unhealthy food was also labelled it'd be easier to avoid

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Why is a Payday candy bar 1/3rd the price of a bag of peanuts with fewer peanuts than the Payday has?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 16 hours ago

Because peanuts on their own have to be visibly pleasing as peanuts or people won't buy them. When you put them in a candy bar, you can use the crap looking ones.

Also, buying in bulk drastically decreases the price. If you had the purchasing power of Hershey, you could get your peanuts really cheap too. Join a food co-op as a starting point.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (10 children)

And it will get reversed in a month...already heard Trumpicans calling it "woke".

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Damn librulz always tryna take my trans fats!

[–] andrew_bidlaw 7 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

First, they came for frogs and made them gay, and I didn't speak up for I'm not a frog.

Then they came for my fats and made them trans.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

Ooh ohh, let me play ….

I didn’t speak up because I’m not a French fry

Then they came for my weekly paycheck and made it bi

[–] GhiLA 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I just don't put fats on any sort of pedestal.

They're just part of cooking, a means to an end. Excess is the enemy of any form of health, just have a balance.

No steak cooked in butter will be healthier than broccoli boiled in it.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

Thanks for posting that. Honestly I would almost guess the article was compiled by AI, as it seems to assume you know information it has not previously mentioned.

If you notice it mentions the symbol multiple times but never shows it. (Not a symbol it can type) Where as a human would have written/drawn/ known it has to be shown or none of the references make sense.

Or I'm an idiot and they just are saying the term "healthy" is the symbol they are going to use?

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[–] conciselyverbose 19 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Not really.

If you cook from ingredients, you'll usually be reasonably healthy. It's not impossible to make healthy prepared foods, but it's (comparatively) expensive enough that that, not awareness, is the main limitation.

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