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[–] [email protected] 83 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There's a McDonald's worker able to be jury. Oh wait, he didn't get the reward money as his claim got denied for bullshit reasons, just like insurance... Never mind.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Is there a source for this? Last time I heard about it, it turned out to be just a ”possibly, maybe, it could be denied”, but nothing was decided yet.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 day ago (3 children)

So, the reports say "might not get it" Like this report but in almost all cases reward money isn't paid. In this case I'd think he has somewhat of a chance to get it due to public pressure, now that it's in the media. But in most cases it is denied because of bullshit reasons. "Thanks to your tip we were able to catch the guy, but through other sources we would have found him as well, so, no" or "multiple agencies offered reward money, so they both say the other one should pay up, so none pay up" or "you didn't follow the right procedures to get the money" or any other bullshit reason to deny payout. Often you'd have to prove you were the sole reason the person got caught, while you don't have access to restricted case files so good luck with that.

It basically works like the health insurance system in the US. They will do anything they can to reject your claim while you will have to fight to get what you should.

Fun fact: radio stations do the same. They offer amazing prices, get loads of people to listen 'to find the hidden clue', have them call an expensive phone number. They pick a winner, have them on the air over the phone, everyone hears how happy they are by winning, so people will try to compete next time again. But they never get a price. Because, no one will hear they didn't get any. Or at least, this used to be so, now with social media it's harder to hide these shady tactics.

Not just radio stations by the way, This was recently.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

This is the best answer ive seen thus far. Ive just being saying all sources reporting he isn't being paid are sourcing their info from a game of telephone origination from articles speculating he might not be paid. This is much better written though thanks!

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

I understand that she can only get the money if he gets convicted. They'll probably still find some other excuse not to pay her, but still - I argue that's a pretty big bias that should disqualify her from jurying.

[–] [email protected] 90 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Jury Nullfication is the People's Presidential Pardon

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago

Just don't mention jury nullification in front of a judge or prosecutor. They hate that.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

I wonder why

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Both teams will be given an opportunity to eliminate potential jurors they believe are too sympathetic to the one side or the other.

Good luck with that, you can only weed out a limited number, and there's a fucking lot of us.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago

Working as intended, jury of his peers not some mindless robots.

[–] [email protected] 426 points 2 days ago (35 children)

He has the right to be judged by a jury of his peers, and it appears as if his peers agree with his actions.

[–] [email protected] 252 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"As this man's peers, you must be the judge of his actions."

"Ok"

"Wait, not like that"

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 day ago

Yup. The article mentions that the prosecutors have a problem, but the U.S. people certainly don't.

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Billionaries and CEOs don't bother to show up to jury duty

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

And so much for a "jury of our peers" if they are padded with billionaires.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Imagine they show for this though...

[–] explodicle 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If I was the only working class juror, I would try my hardest to get the CEO jurors sequestered with me.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can we really call ceo's our peers?

[–] explodicle 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nope. I'd be deliberately wasting their time and money until we're a hung jury. They aren't capable of a good faith discussion.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Can you imagine their horror as they watch stocks slip and make an alarming $12.50/hr like a "commoner"? Gasp! Even worse have to sleep in a 3star hotel.

[–] [email protected] 273 points 2 days ago (30 children)
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[–] Lucidlethargy 120 points 2 days ago

Sympathy and empathy are definitely a problem in an openly corrupt, heartless justice system that only serves the elite.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 days ago (1 children)

These clowns have no idea they're so out of touch with everyday Americans

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago

I think they know how out of touch they are. But they don't understand the level of discontent across vast swaths of the large percent of the population that they would never dream of chatting with.

[–] [email protected] 112 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Huckledebuck 116 points 2 days ago (2 children)

"Jury nullification is a fundamental aspect of the American jury system, allowing jurors to acquit defendants despite overwhelming evidence of guilt if they deem the law unjust or immoral. This concept has its roots in colonial America and has been exercised throughout U.S. history, often in response to unjust laws or societal norms."

For those not on the know.

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Maybe this is somewhat similar to a woman killing her rapist, after police refuse to investigate? There are probably examples of leniency in such cases.

[–] [email protected] 136 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (8 children)

I thought they put the terrorist charge on him precisely to avoid requiring a jury as part of all the ~~rights~~ privileges we surrendered post 9/11 in the name of... Pffff... National security.

National security being hilarious considering the CEOs are still walking the streets free, murdering citizens for profit having never not being actively sucked off by legislators that passed the patriot act and similar legislation.

The murderous Shareholders are already inside the house. They own the house. You can barely afford to rent it from them.

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