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The incoming Trump administration plans extensive rollbacks on electric vehicle (EV) policies, including eliminating EV subsidies, blocking battery imports, canceling federal EV purchases, and reversing $7.5 billion in charging infrastructure funding.

EPA fuel efficiency standards will revert to 2019 levels, increasing vehicle emissions by 25%.

Trade tariffs, applied globally, will raise EV costs, while California's stricter emissions rules face renewed opposition.

Public safety regulations, such as crash reporting for automated vehicles, are also set to be repealed.

These policies prioritize fossil fuels and U.S. auto manufacturing over EV adoption and environmental goals.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Has he cleared that with his husband, President Musk, yet?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

Helps him. No competition. And I'm sure Tesla will be exempt.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Lol. Looks like someone got paid off.

But hey, Americans voted for corruption and regression. So that's what we're going to get.

Give yourselves a pat on the back. We played ourselves...again.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Hey, I didn't play myself, over a hundred thousand Americans played me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It was stolen, you’re telling me he won all 7 swing states?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Once you realize the average American voter is stupid af, doesn’t understand basic civics, doesn’t understand basic macro economics, doesn’t understand the President doesn’t control gas prices, and the list goes on and on. It’s less likely Trump and Co stole anything (there’s no evidence of there of it) and more likely the blame is on ignorant or blinded or willingly fascists voters to bring about “change” on their feelings and vibes. Plus the Dems ran a pretty shitty campaign. Caucusing with Liz fucking Cheney? Jfc what an L that was.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

True once you factor that all in plus how “smart” the average American is and knowing there are less intelligent folks that make up the bottom half then I get it. I just don’t get the loss of 7 million voters for the dems from 2020 to 2024 vs the same guy. Spoonamore’s recent post about countries in AZ. Smart Elections press release they just put out.

Maybe I’m still on a little hopium. I deleted my Reddit account a while ago but I periodically check r/somethingiswrong2024 some post are grasping at straws but some are seriously concerning.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I wonder what his DOGE douche is going to think about that

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Teslas have no appeal for government vehicles anyways. They're overpriced, unmaintainable, and unmodifiable. The cybertruck only comes with a permanently covered bed, which is not useful if you want to use it like a truck.

This will hurt government orgs that want to use electric trucks for short distance hauls and the post office. One will cost you more money, and the other will help republicans in the polls.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Hasn’t NASA been using Teslas for years now?

[–] [email protected] 49 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's like everyone's crazy-ass right wing uncle/grandfather who's still living in 1980 and still thinks EVs are "hippie mobiles" managed to snake his way into power.

If they only knew what kind of power an electric motor can put out from a dead stop. Maybe we can get them to appreciate the "Tim Allen grunt" aspect of EVs. They are going to flip their shit when motorsports like drag racing switch over to electric.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Lol, can you imagine BYD buying its way into NASCAR?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (4 children)

An EV doing 500 miles on a single charge?
Yeah, right. Lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Quick change system. Drop the battery and lever the new one into place. As long as your pit crew (who train as professional athletes) can get their bespoke engineered stuff into place as fast or faster than a gas refill you're good to go.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

They do already have Formula E. They race for 45 minutes but the cars can travel about 310-372 miles. That distance has been increasing over the years

edit: additional information

[–] nwtreeoctopus 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Fast swapping batteries is probably the distance racing solution.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (3 children)

If only consumers could have battery quick-swapping technology. I imagine a world where gas stations are converted into battery storage facilities and where everyone all has the same, standardized battery type.
You pull in over a pit, a scanner locates the battery, a robot arm comes up to yank the installed battery and another arm installs a charged one. Done in 30 seconds.

[–] nwtreeoctopus 7 points 3 days ago

There was a video of a system like that for Chinese taxis making the rounds not too long ago.

Would be sweet.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

It's been experimented with over the years, including by Tesla. There are a whole bunch of mechanical and practical issues. Charger networks are expanding fast, and that approach is being left behind.

For race cars, though, it's fine.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Pretty soon we won't need humans at all! Well I say down with the machines! I say we bring back gas station attendants.

I for one would like my battery swap to be carried out by a high school dropout of dubious sobriety. You just pull in, wait awkwardly making angry furtive eye contact with the attendant. You can't tell whether he's angry, or his face graffiti just makes him appear so. Probably both. He eventually ambles over and preforms the swap. He wipes your windshield in the hopes of a tip. Leaving grimy streaks behind, an apt metaphor for his life past or present. You hand over a fiver over out of guilt more than any appreciation of a service rendered. You pull out.

Done in 30 minutes. It's the American way.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

curb weight: 5368lbs

Lmao

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Something tells me this won't go through if Elon has a fraction the influence he seems to think he does

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It'll go through in areas where Tesla doesn't or can't make a product for it. There isn't even going to be the pretense of fairness here. It's why CEOs are lining up to grovel at Trump's feet

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

DOD has bought Teslas for it's GOV fleet before.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 days ago

The Trump regime's policies will just accelerate the process of the USA being left behind as the rest of the world advances in technology and infrastructure. Unfortunately the MAGAs will not care, and when it affects them they'll just pick a vulnerable minority to blame.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Didn't the US Army recently purchase what is essentially EV dirt bikes for RECCE purposes and found them extremely useful?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago

Yes but who is the corrupt criminal that got voted in?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Yup. Turns out silent vehicles are massively useful in reconnaissance. Who could have known? (Every soldier ever)

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 days ago

Who could have seen this coming!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Ohhh. I see. They (Trump's GOP) want to eliminate all federal agencies unless they can be used as punishment.

I've been convinced that they intend to follow through on the decades-long plan to push everything not explicitly in the constitution to the states or private corporations. This article suggests that the EPA could be used to punish ZEV states and force them to do what they want. Yeah - that makes more sense under a fascism.

The so-called ZEV states (for Zero Emissions Vehicles) do have something closer to an EV mandate, and from model-year 2026 in these states (California, Connecticut, Colorado, Delaware, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nevada, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, and the District of Columbia) a third of all new cars sold by each automaker will have to be battery-electric—assuming the EPA grants California a waiver to allow this to happen.

[–] vaultdweller013 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Which frankly speaking sounds like a great way to get the states go ignore the federal government. There isnt much the feds can do if the states start to ignore the civil structure, especially if they can figure out how to cutoff federal tax revenue.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Which the billionaires and corporations would love. Less taxes and they can easily play the smaller governments off against each other.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Can't have those gays in the military, after all.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

Elon will be delighted.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Uh oh, Daddy Elon won't like that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Tesla will get a carve-out. This is to own the libs.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

We've officially reached Operation Dark Storm levels of self-destructive idiocy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Eat poopy Donnie