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Even gamers nexus' Steve today said that they're about to start doing Linux games performance testing soon. It's happening, y'all, the year of the Linux desktop is upon us. ᕕ(ᐛ)ᕗ

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 minutes ago

Every game I bought on Steam under Windows runs great on Steam in Linux Mint. The few games I didn't buy on Steam (Deus Ex, Giants: Citizen Kabuto) run great on Wine, using the default settings.

Adopting Proton was the smartest thing Valve ever did. They're going to get about 90% of gamers migrating from Windows to Linux, who don't want to fiddle with configuration settings.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 minutes ago* (last edited 5 minutes ago)

This is the fifth person I see misinterpreting what Steve said about doing Linux performance testing, they aren't going to start doing this soon, they will only start doing it WHEN SteamOS is released for desktops! It was very clear on the video FFS

I'm also really fucking excited for that tho, I recently switched to mint and helldivers 2 actually feels smoother than on windows, it has been such a good experience!! I cannot imagine how much better things will get with more people jumping to Linux and thus game makers actually pay attention to us

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 hours ago

I just did that. I have a dual boot laptop where Windows was used exclusively for games, and instead of upgrading that I built myself a PC with an AMD GPU (Nvidia, fuck you!).

So far I haven't run into any problem that I couldn't easily solve, and the only games that won't run are those demanding I install an anti cheat system, but I'm fine not playing those.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I saw a post on bluesky saying Steamdeck can't be widely adopted because of linux. I asked why is that the case? He says "Linux doesn't run as many games as windows ". I said "only a few and the anti cheat ones". He kept arguing. I asked him about nintendo and he goes "It has the games to back it up" and I blocked him lol.

Millions of games are not enough because its FOMO.

[–] GhiLA 15 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Linux doesn't run as many games as Windows

I'd argue it runs more due to compatibility breaks. Wine just-werks with a lot of old installers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Indeed. I couldn’t get a couple of old 3DO games working on windows 10/11 even though I bought them on Steam.

Work great on Linux w/ Photon (aka wine).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Hit or miss sadly, but still damn close to magic. I can play skyrim and it runs.. As expected, but can't install dark souls rn.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I've been using Linux exclusively for ~14 years now. Heavily gaming on Linux only for the last ~8 years.

It was possible (though sometimes headache inducing) to play most games back then (Wine and soon Proton to thank) the biggest change IMHO came with SteamPlay since it turned the headache into one click on most games (thanks to the amazing work of wine/proton developers and the tinkering of the community).

When the SteamDeck released people seemed surprised at the breadth of games that were running on day one. To me it was not really a surprise since I had been Linux gaming with SteamPlay all the time and was almost expecting games to "just work" (though I still would and still am checking ProtonDB before purchase).

What the SteamDeck changed in my view was

  1. Showing "everyone" that Linux Gaming is a thing that's happening and been happening for a while. So maybe check it out?
  2. That a Handheld that doesn't have to work around Windows but uses a purpose built OS just makes a lot more sense

I feel that the SteamDeck with SteamOS has really put Linux, especially Linux gaming on the map. Even though I want to be like "Linux Gaming has been a thing forever, I was doing it before it was cool" ;) I have to recognize that fact. In the past years I've seen so many people setting up Linux especially by the way of SteamOS (using HoloISO, Chimera ...) just to play/mess with it which is also why I think an Official SteamOS release will make a huge difference.

Tl;dr: Gaming on Linux was a thing before. But the SteamDeck/SteamOS 3 made a huge impact nonetheless.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I haven't run across a game that hasn't run on The Deck yet. I know it's capable of running quite a lot, but I got it to play indie games. It's been great and does what I want it to do phenomenally. Additionallh if I ever wanted to do something more demanding on it, I could.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 44 minutes ago

Most demanding thing I've tried on it was beam ng drive, it ran but struggled a bit. I've never yet been unable to play something I wanted to on it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago

It still feels like magic at times. The SteamDeck is my backlog steamrolling machine (pun intended). Almost every game in my library that I either forgot about or feels wasteful to play on my high-end desktop, runs amazing. I'm replaying Brutal Legend just because it runs so smoothly on my deck.

When they came out with SteamOS the first time, it felt so good to have a games run on Linux without fiddling with Wine. Those were dark times. The few people making an effort to run their games with the tools they had available where really putting in work to make it happen.

God, I remember searching the ends of the internet to get Starcraft running at some point. I managed to kinda get it going but it might have taken a few days of troubleshooting silly things.

If you've been at it for 8 years, I appreciate your efforts.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

When SteamOS releases on all devices people will say "I'll switch when every peice of Windows software is compatible" or some other unreasonable and impossible accomplishment. Even if every peice of Windows software was compatible people would say "ill switch to Linux when it looks and functions identically to Windows".

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

These guys should not wait for Linux but support reactOS, lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

Absolutely this, Linux is not a Windows replacement but ReactOS is (granted its not ready yet)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

It helps to think about this as a spectrum, as more features become available more people will make the switch to Linux. Not everyone will be able to swich to Linux at the same time, and some people will never switch.

Gaming was major bottleneck, even I, a person using Linux full time for the past 20 years, I used to maintain a Windows disk to play games. Only in the past couple of years I was able to sunset my windows setup, hopefully to never touch windows ever again. I had to drop a couple of games but it got to the point where rebooting to a OS wasn't worth it, as most of my games worked flawlessly without any tweaking.

There are many major pros to the Linux desktop environment, but we still need major software applications to become portable. The workflow of an average office worker is still not Linux compatible. Of course there are office alternatives, but they are not as easy to use. Though, IMO the oss world is hurting by trying to copy ms when their products are so horrible... Hopefully, the EU will drop some major cash at the issue with all these talks about digital sovereignty.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

With bottles, boxes, and all the other small environment virtualization solutions available right now, switching to Linux with a few 'almost native' Windows application is easier than ever. The mileage will vary from distro to distro. I've managed to get bottles to run some annoyingly old statistics software I need for work. It works great. Sometimes it can be a bit of a headache to figure out where the software saves files but playing detective for a file somewhere in the system is better than enduring all that Windows imposes on the user.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 minutes ago

Didn't know about Bottles, Cool find, may have to test it out.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago

Yep. I recently started using bluesky and it's filled with linux hate posts farming likes. People just complaining about random things that don't even make sense.

I believe fomo is a real thing. Even if one doesnt play fortnite or valorant or kernel level shit, they still are afraid of missing out. So unless and until Microsoft goes bankrupt, I doubt Linux will replace it.

[–] [email protected] 122 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (16 children)

To anyone reading this thinking "once SteamOS comes out, I'll switch", you should know:

Gaming on Linux is already here. Pick a distro and game. You can take advantage of Proton right now. You don't need to wait for one specific distro.

I've personally been gaming on Linux exclusively for about 3 years. Windows games, not Linux games.

Edit: based on other commenters' suggestions, I'll give you some.

I have gamed for those three years on PopOS. It is a distro based on Debian, ultimately, which means it's also related to Ubuntu and Mint. Realistically, you can pick any of those 4 and you should have a nice experience.

Arch is popular with the übergeeks, and I do use it on my laptop, BTW, but you shouldn't use it as a first distro.

The concept of "distro" doesn't really exist for Windows, because you pretty much get one monolithic product. But basically, it is a specific mix of software that works together and relies on the Linux kernel. Imagine it as a "version" of Windows with specific goals, some of which are overlapping (e.g. Mint and Ubuntu tend to cater to the same audience).

If you get far enough into it, the freedom that Linux allows means that you can turn any distro into any other distro.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Tbh the vast majority of people who say "ill switch to (insert Linux distro here) when (insert accomplishment here)" will most likley never switch

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago

Fair enough. I tend to agree, but I like to give people the benefit of the doubt, because, you know, FOSS and freedom.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

It's actually surprising how easy it is to use.

My wife was playing Baldur's Gate 3 on her windows laptop (GOG version, DRM free) and I just wanted to see if I can run it on my Linux laptop.

Just copied the game folder from her laptop to my external SSD, plugged it into my laptop, ran through proton. Everything works without any issues. Simple as that.

I was pleasantly surprised. We could even join via LAN and had some co-op fun. After trying it out I think I'm buying the game.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

I haven’t used Windows for more than a decade, and I am genuinely surprised reading your post that the game works in this manner even if with proton/wine layer.

I can’t help but think that this is an exception, and would attribute this behaviour to how the game is made. I wonder what other software function this way.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago

Exactly this. Many people have a lot of apprehension until they actually try it.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 10 hours ago (5 children)

"Pick a distro" is why they're waiting for steamos, presumably.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 8 hours ago

I recently switched to fedora and I didn't think it would be difficult, but it was even easier than I expected. Every game I've tried to play has worked perfectly.

[–] GhiLA -1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I tried their iso on a mini PC yesterday and uhh... not so good.

Installed mint and had steam running in 15 minutes after the disappointment tho.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Where did you find a SteamOS 3.0 ISO?

[–] pinpin 1 points 1 hour ago

There's no ISO.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 11 hours ago (7 children)

the biggest wall imo is still getting companies with anticheat games on board.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

It's true that a big slice of gamers play games with anti-cheat solutions that don't work on linux. That said most of those aren't even on steam, which is the biggest pc game marketplace, so I'm not sure it's that big of a dealbreaker for that many people.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 hours ago

It will be the opposite. Even Microsoft hates kernel-level anti-cheat.

[–] pizza_the_hutt 74 points 10 hours ago (5 children)

IMO, no one should be playing games with kernel level anticheat. There is no way I would let any big gaming company have that level of control over my PC. It's a security nightmare.

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