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my prediction is that they'll eventually just start saying "we DID lower prices. for everything" even though every graph will show that the prices have perpetually gone up. for everything. and all the complete fucking moron troompa loompa voters will 100% believe that prices have gone down

The absolute crazy thing is the energy prices. He said he'd cut energy prices in HALF within 12 months. Then he said it again. And again. He like quadrupled down on this and people actually bought it. This dude legitimately promised that all energy prices would be fucking halved in 12 months. I will eat my entire piece of shit car if that happens lol

Can we crosspost to Leopords Ate My Face on behalf of every Trump voter who cited the economy as their reason? Or not yet?

Or didn't vote!

Has he ever truly faced consequences for what he says or does?

Nobody knew health care could be so complicated

— President Trump (February 27, 2017)

I mean if nobody got the message he wasn't going to anything. Being direct this time isn't going to help. Literally didn't even fucking LOCK HER UP like he said he would. Don't even get me started on his tax return, still waiting on that, likely will happen on infrastructure week.

Anything that guy says is just utter shit.

For some, I would agree. But I'd also say that's an insane over generalisation and these kind of comments are the same shit. People with no serious education on a topic, spewing 'stats' and making sweeping statements.

They do care about bigotry, for sure. But I wholeheartedly reject the notion that they don't care about the economy. The majority of America has suffered catastrophic financial losses over the last 4 years. The democratic platform did not honestly do a very convincing job of showing that they can or will remedy that. And they see everything from a reactionary right wing news source that lies to them.

The proof is in the past week. It's in the bipartisan celebration of the public execution of a mass murderer. Seriously, the conservative right is floundering trying to condemn the slaying while their whole base celebrates it openly. Working class conservatives still suffer medical debt, they still suffer cost of living increases, they still suffer from wage theft and pay stagnation. The way to appeal to those people wasn't to reach out to Republicans it was to reach out to them directly. It was to come forward with a radical plan to change the ways society sucks for all working class people.

The bigotry is unacceptable. I'm a trans woman, I agree. I'm an anarchist. I'm about as opposite politically as I could be from far right reactionary conservatives. The way to actually garner mass appeal among the working class is to actually do things that appeal to the working class. Establishment democrats categorically failed to do that, time and again. This recent health insurance dialog clearly shows that people want change. But instead of advocating for change, the establishment advocated for itself. Instead of combating transphobic and xenophobic narratives they just said the token progressive things expected of them. Why didn't Harris come out and say that focus on trans people and illegal immigrants is meant to draw attention away from the billionaires and capitalists who are profiting off of mass worker exploitation? She couldn't do that. She is as beholden to those billionaires and capitalists as MAGA is.

Like it's time to acknowledge that most transphobic members of the working class don't even understand what trans people are. They are outraged solely because the right wing propaganda tells them to be. The way forward isn't ostracization and more partisanship, but actual dialog focusing on the things that affect them and us negatively. It's far easier to demonstrate to them that they've been fed propaganda about trans people, when we can show them things they already know are true (like health insurance is bullshit) and then point out the propaganda they're being fed on that. We have common enemies. Class unity should be our goal. Not to appeal to Republican pundits and politicians and law makers, but to appeal to the well-being of all working class people. To be actually progressive, to be the actual left and to push for real radical positive change.

I get what you're going for, but there are plenty of people that did vote for him for the economy and the like. There are plenty I'm sure that voted because of anti-lgbt issues without a doubt. But casting this blanket statement of "they all" like every single trump voter went to the polls and said "Gee I'd love healthcare, but those gays are a real problem" is dangerous rhetoric. This "us vs them" mentality is what makes things so difficult and divisive in the first place.

You're not going to win people over to your point of view if you lump every single person who doesn't already agree with you under the "racist bigot" umbrella.

Is there hate in their ranks? Sure. Do I think everyone who put trump on their vote card hates LGBT people and anyone not matching their race? No.

I get being upset but they won the election. And if we sit here going "We don't want you anyway bigot!" They're gonna win again. It's just not a healthy mentality to have in a dialogue.

Edit: also not really what the article was about. People did vote for him cause he said he'd lower prices and fix the economy, and he is failing to do that. This is an opportunity to point out his lies and welcome people to a different viewpoint, not slam the door in their face.

I know urban people who voted for Trump. They don't care about white supremacy, Palestine, or even Trump himself. They want lower grocery bills, lower interest on their credit cards, no taxes on overtime, and not be forced to pay child support. These are actual answers I got from work.

bUT, frEe MaRkeT brINg DOwn pRiCe!

Or start assassinating the ceos of Ralph's and Albertsons on the side walk and see if that helps, just a suggestion

we're still blaming stimulus checks for inflation.

Most western countries had inflation as high or higher than the US and did not provide stimulus checks. Gee, I wonder what the common denominator could be...? Certainly not a worldwide pandemic!

I'm going to guess the small business loans didn't help either

They're all currently in denial and even when prices increase further due to the tariffs they'll just blame it on the previous administration.

Trust me, I've been trying to explain this to these people for a long time. Had a talk with one of them where I told them about this interview and their exact response was to blame Biden.

Looks like the merger is off.

I just hope it's only 4 years.

If people understood the very first thing about economics it would be glaringly obvious that his proposed tariffs would drastically raise grocery prices, and the prices of many other things. Unfortunately, people don't understand, and the media carefully avoids explaining it to them.

This is how we finally achieve single payer healthcare in the US in the stupidest possible way and I wouldn't bet against it this point: The Aetnited CigShield Corp!