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i know that once you do bad things in the world you aren't considered pure or innocent anymore, but well maybe you aren't innocent but you can be pure?? if you did bad things can you be pure again?? this is not about religion but rather the truth of being a person yea!!

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

What you want to be is “good”. Purity is a weird concept mostly used by people who want to get rid of other people.

Yes, you can be good after being bad. It’s a hard struggle though, because you have to alter the parts of yourself that generated the bad behavior.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

Purity is a bullshit concept. You can't be good without understanding what that is. Doing bad things is one way to figure that out, and yeah you can be good after doing harm, particularly if you face the harm you've done and work to fix it and not repeat it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

I don't believe there is such a thing as pure of heart. Naivety and ignorance sure, but no such thing as pure of heart.

And it is about religion as my religion rejects the Christian moral concept of purity.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Honestly, I think the whole concept of purity is ridiculous.

We are all 100% pure human.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Except if you have prosthetics. Then you're man and machine

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago
[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This is all assuming a human could be pure from the very beginning. I'd say no.

However, I do think you can learn from your mistakes and redeem yourself, to yourself.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"The Good Place" suggested that what you have done is less important than what you are currently doing to improve as a person.

You may never erase the your moral failings from the past, but as long as you are still trying to be better, that's what matters.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

What a good show. Funny thing is OP might both enjoy ane learn from it based on where they are.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

Purity is a human construct. Purity doesn't exist.

What you can do... What you can effect... Is to always improve, always learn, and always grow.

Press forward in goodness and wholeness. Let that be purity enough.

[–] Susaga 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you think you're pure, you definitely aren't.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Then again, if you’re striving for it, you’re probably doing better than most

[–] Susaga 1 points 1 week ago

Striving for purity is a fools errand. Striving to be better than you were before? That could work.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

There is no pureness of heart so-to-speak. The whole point is we're creatures with gradient circumstances. Life just has too many moving parts for the idea of perfection many of us have, as any watcher of the show Wander Over Yonder will tell you.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Purity is the choice of a disciplined, mature, knowing mind and heart. It is not a thing the young can do. Even so, you are the inheritor of your past actions. Even if you choose purity and blamelessness, some will never forgive your past actions. Trust that the wise will see your pure heart.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

To be imperfect is to be human.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

To err is human. As long as you are capable of genuine remorse, you're as "pure" as possible.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I am going to need you to define what it means to you to be "pure of heart".

There is a decent chance that you will find an answer to your question by doing this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

I was never pure of heart.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yes, often people need to learn through pain how to be a good person. It can be someone who bullied others in school and later realized how much pain they caused and feel severely ashamed by it.

I don't know about the concept of pure, I don't think in those terms myself. But we should aspire to make a positive difference in this world. Every time you meet a person, you affect how he or she feels.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

you can be pure of heart and be an absolutely evil wretched being, so long as you're purely evil and wretched. Really commit to it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

I believe so. Purity of heart is cultivating authentic "goodness." That is, doing the "right thing" for the sake of the thing, not for reward or recognition, although that may be a by-product. Not necessarily "right" by social standards, while also recognizing that what is right for you may not be, for someone else. I noticed you said later you hold a Christian perspective. Jesus said the well don't need doctors. He was a champion of the poor, outcast, and women. He forgave what temple authority wouldn't. He interceded for his murderers. I would also refer you to the 51 Psalm.