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Trump announced plans to end birthright citizenship via executive action, despite its constitutional basis in the 14th Amendment.

He also outlined a mass deportation policy, starting with undocumented immigrants who committed crimes and potentially expanding to mixed-status families, who could face deportation as a unit.

Trump said he wants to avoid family separations but left the decision to families.

While doubling down on immigration restrictions, Trump expressed willingness to work with Democrats to create protections for Dreamers under DACA, citing their long-standing integration into U.S. society.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

This piece of shit is just trying to get rid of his wife and unattractive children.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Who could have possibly seen this coming?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

I'm a bit conflicted in this, because Canada has similar issues with this but it's more "birth tourism" where people from various other countries come here for a limited time - have a child who is entitled to citizenship and all the benefits - and then leave. That child spend decades never setting foot in the country, but still be eligible for a passport, voting rights, and many other such things despite having no significant ties to the country, and neither parent being a citizen

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (5 children)
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Deport them to where even mexico doesn’t want US Mexican Americans in their territory unless they get dual citizenship. He will need 2/3 votes of senate and the house to amend the US constitution. Orange man dumb asf!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He doesn't need shit. Stop assuming the law matters anymore.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

SURELY THIS TIME THE LAW WILL APPLY TO TRUMP!!1

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Mexico said that if you are an American born of Mexican parents they'll give you your Mexican citizenship.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

This isn't stupidity, this is inhumanity. They don't care if other countries don't want them once they have their concentration camps.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think that’s too far. It’s such a good story, and it’s the way it’s always been in my lifetime before: you’re born in the USA, you get automatic US citizenship. No matter why your parents happen to be here. Maybe you have a layover in Miami on the way from Buenos Aires London, you go into labor and have the child at a hospital near the airport, that kid is a US citizen.

That makes sense to me (admittedly, probably because that’s the way it’s always been).

It’s like a nice little bonus for some people, and people can aim for it, and it’s a good story.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Abortion rights was always how it had been in my lifetime, but look at us now.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Okay, we don't need to go adding extra stupid stuff. At the base level you're doing their normalization for them. At the high level we need an accurate idea of what's coming so we can prepare.

Watching the actual interview it's clear he makes some assertions. They don't want to separate families so they will send the US citizens with the family if the family wants. What this generally means is when the parents are undocumented but a kid is a citizen. This interview does not support denaturalizing people, (but he did do that in his first term), or forcing American citizens in a mixed status family who are adults to leave.

On the 14th the interviewer wanted and got an answer from an 80 year old partially senile man. His first, natural answer to the 14th amendment question was he would go to the people. He only noncommittally said he would look at an EO when then interviewer kept asking him but what about an executive order. If he's mentioned doing that before the proper way is to bring up what he said before and see if he still holds that position. Not repeating, "but what about an EO" 5 times until you get the funny and the headline writers can celebrate.

The open question is how will this highly suggestable man fare around the likes of Stephen Miller.

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