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Trump announced plans to end birthright citizenship via executive action, despite its constitutional basis in the 14th Amendment.

He also outlined a mass deportation policy, starting with undocumented immigrants who committed crimes and potentially expanding to mixed-status families, who could face deportation as a unit.

Trump said he wants to avoid family separations but left the decision to families.

While doubling down on immigration restrictions, Trump expressed willingness to work with Democrats to create protections for Dreamers under DACA, citing their long-standing integration into U.S. society.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I'm a bit conflicted in this, because Canada has similar issues with this but it's more "birth tourism" where people from various other countries come here for a limited time - have a child who is entitled to citizenship and all the benefits - and then leave. That child spend decades never setting foot in the country, but still be eligible for a passport, voting rights, and many other such things despite having no significant ties to the country, and neither parent being a citizen

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 week ago (3 children)

How is this an issue? How many people do you honestly go abroad explicitly to give birth there to gain the system?

Sounds like you fell for yet another outrage clickbait. If 100 people do this, whatever. I rather have this than someone being born in a country and lives there their entire life but has no right of nationality there because their parents weren't there for 5 years prior to their birth or whatever the fuck the law says.

UK has no citizenship by birth type and it hurts way more people than could ever hope to abuse it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It’s “game the system” just so you know.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Thanks, I typed it in at half 1 in the morning, brain cells weren't at their capacity.

[–] funkless_eck 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I looked it up there were 3,575 non-citizen births in Canada in 2023.

I couldn't find any numbers on how many were deliberate

[–] Jyek 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So less than 1% of natural born Canadian citizens in 2023 were to non-citizen parents? Really send like it's not that big of a deal at all

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

If someone uproots their life to go and live in a different country and contribute paying more taxes than average family with zero safety nets? They earned it.

People love to act like immigrants have it somehow easier... While they're heavily discriminated at every step, pay extra for just about everything and come with less money moving in, no family house to fall back onto etc. The entitlement I've seen in my life disgusts me.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

That's also not counting the # of people that try and fail.

Border services can turn back people who are pregnant and close to their end-date

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Ah yes, the "outrage clickbait" that is a known issue and has been the subject of numerous studies by government and reputable institutions both pre and post pandemic.

Guess we should send the border services agency a memo that it's probably only a hundred people and they should remove it from the things they literally screen for, because some Internet genius is sure it's nothing to worry about...