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[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 month ago (1 children)

if they claim a 15lb Turkey feeds 12, how am I supposed trust any of the other numbers?

[–] hissingmeerkat 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Or how 1 GW/(200 W/person) came up with a number that started with a 3 instead of a 5. Like 5 million people, not 30 million.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

But it only takes 3.5 hours per turkey and a day has 24 of them. So if some people get up at 3am it works out!

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Can we also talk about the way they chose to manipulate the perception of the data by their choice of states

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago

LOL, it's a reverse population map. Works on the stupid because "lots of orange!"

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

There are states with populations higher than 30 million. Like yea that's a lot of people, but the cherry picking of states is annoying

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I thought this was going to be about how many turkeys you could cook directly using the reactor heat

my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Be about 3x that number. Reactors are about 33-40% efficient. So a 1000 MW electric plant is running at 3000 MW thermal. Would be relatively easy too. Just a gigantic steam heated oven. So 7.5 million turkeys, enough to feed 90 million people or about a quarter of the US.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I doubt an oven needs 2400W continuous to keep at temperature. Also a single large oven will be far more efficient than 7.5 million separate ovens.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

you know what, i am thankful for you

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Glad to know I'm not the only one!

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Rookie Numbers. It only uses electrical power generated. Why not cook turkeys in heat destined for cooling towers ? Gotta push those numbers way up.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Or just toss all the turkeys into the reactor

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

Restricted sous-vide basin

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Turkey control rods

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

How is this a meme?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The fun part of this is this is true of any 1GW power source. We have been deploying solar+battery arrays in that range recently for much less money and much faster than nuclear.

Thanks "Office of nuclear energy" for pointing out how useful large scale solar+battery is too!

[–] C126 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'd like to see this redone using energy instead of power. E.g is 2,400 watts during the initial heatup or when the oven reaches stable temperature? They're not taking into account the time change either.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

2400W is typical maximum power for an oven. If you run that continuous you'll have very crispy (black) turkey

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (10 children)

I really don't get this ackshually business about nuclear power, we're absolute idiots to not employ it more. Everywhere there's been a focus on nuclear power generation we're seeing reliable results over a long long timespan

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (14 children)

Lemmy keeps telling me nuclear power is stupid. I've been screaming for more going on 30-years now. 🤷

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The problem with nuclear is: business wise, it is a TOUGH sell to the public, even without the anti-nuclear lobby groups fighting with safety propaganda.

It takes a much higher capital spend to start up nuclear than any other type of plant, so you won't "break even" for 30 plus years, if ever.

It doesn't help when there are high profile sites that are being refurbished, whose costs are already phenomenaly high, and then the managing firm fucks it up (I'm looking at you Crystal River).

It makes it high risk, financially. And it's the public that ultimately ends up paying.

My hope is that SMR's become viable. They introduce a new factor though. If you get small, "cheaper" nuclear plants, then you will get more operators and you will get some that may run fast and loose. One fuck up can ruin it for everyone.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I can accept the argument that it's safe and effective but the public irrationally won't accept it. Seems to have been a pretty good sell on the other side of the curtain though

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (10 children)

Wow, didn't realize how anti-nuclear Lemmy is after looking at this comment thread.

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[–] ryedaft 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If people didn't all turn their oven on at the same time but took more of a staggered approach this would supply a lot more people.

[–] hissingmeerkat 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, it's already wrong even for realistic staggered dinners.

I think they are using an arbitrary GW-day of energy instead of power, so it can't even come close to making as much turkey as claimed.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They're over by a factor of 6 which would add up to 21 hours, not 24. I don't know what they've done to get 2.5 million, it should be 417 thousand with those numbers.

Edit: Oh dear. They said each oven could completely cook 6 turkeys in a day so they rounded to that number. At least it no longer reads GW/day.
The source

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Time zones probably help with that!

[–] ShankShill 3 points 1 month ago

If you cook me a 15lb turkey in 3 1/2 hours that burnt dry shit is going in the trash.

  • Dude standing by a smoker with 10 lbs of pork ribs for the past 4 hours
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