I try not to judge Tesla drivers too much since plenty of them bought in before Elon went full mask-off in support of fascism, but if you own a Cybertruck you were 100% aware of what you were supporting when you bought it and I will absolutely judge you for that poor financial decision. Fucking Cyberdorks.
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People who own Cybertrucks might as well fly giant Trump and Elon flags. Fuck every single one of them.
I call them Cyberbacks. They aren't trucks they are bloated hatchbacks.
They genuinely look like city dumpsters from behind. Saw a green one, thought it would be a good place to dump my bottles and cans.
It may be unfair, but I've been increasingly judgemental of Tesla drivers, especially over the past 4 or 5 years. He used to just be a joke when he was tweeting edgelord stuff like his nightstand and trying to have images scrubbed from the internet of when he was still bald. Model S, model 3, model X (s3x, hur dur). Then I was made angry by the hyperloop and his distracting, unproductive impact of the way America thinks about mass transit. Then I got mad about Starlink, first as extremely expensive, dystopian sky litter. Then as a frightening glimpse at communication control in places with civil unrest/protest. Then he bought twitter, and did a hilariously bad job at running it. Installing a cartoonishly bad sign on his building and whatnot. Naming it something idiotic. Then helping bring Trump back from the dead. Then everything he has done in the 2024 election cycle. I don't know how people can stand to be associated with Elon and all the he represents in any way. It would be like driving around in a Jimmy Savile-mobile.
Because I bought a $60k car in 2018 that still works fine, and replacing a fully functional vehicle is a huge expense to undertake.
I acknowledge that it's unfair, but I'm judging you. Everyone driving in a Tesla looks like a rube at best, tacky and vain at least, or a contributor to fascism at worst. Perhaps you might consider a bumper sticker, haha.
The stickers do help, I have seen one before and then I remember how it was exciting in the early days that someone was very publicly making a big push to introduce a viable alternative to internal combustion engines. We know a lot more now about Musk and Tesla than we did back when the first cars rolled out. A lot of the early Tesla owners probably meant well and it doesn’t help that nearly all the infrastructure (at least in my area) is car-only and hostile towards other forms of transit.
Ah, back when full self driving was only negative four years into the future.
He pushed Hyperloop such that they build more roads btw. since other forms of transit were just fine or however it went back then. Goal achieved, idiots loved him and argued for this nonsense a lot.
It was an attempt to derail California (and other) High Speed Rail.
Why would you build HSR if there's something way faster/better/cheaper, you just need to wait 5 years? You're going to look really dumb if you spend tens of billions on infrastructure intended to last more than a century, and then it's obsolete before it's complete.
Similar story with Toyota perpetually claiming to have amazing batteries 3-5 years away, making every EV look like an expensive waste with no resale value.
And a hydrogen economy, small nuclear reactors, or fusion power being 5/10/20 years away, removing the need to invest in transmission and generation.
A major paradigm shift being right around the corner makes people choose short-term solutions, because you want to wait for the new thing to arrive before investing in 'old tech'.
The problem is most of it is lies, perpetuated by those selling the short-term-fix old tech.
Exactly. He's the poster child for a virus that is killing our host. Beyond unhelpful, and well into counterproductive.
I judge people in Tesla's, especially 3 and y the same way I used to judge bmw drivers. I must assume they are a dumbass and going to do something dangerous because they often do. Wonder what percentage of Tesla drivers used to have beamers.
I bought one when no other option for an EV really existed for reasonable range batteries.
I have never owned a luxury car. My other car is a Honda accord from 2016.
I would be happy to have any other car brand, but the cost to replace the car with a different EV of similar range would cost us $30k. Is it really that important to harm yourself financially to signal to others your preferences for a person?
Elon has always been crazy.
He used to be better at keeping his mouth shut.
He used to have less airtime
If you listened (as most of us in tech did) he's been fucking batshit since the PayPal days.
He left trumps orbit last time he was president because Trump withdrew from the Paris Accord.
Now he doesn't give a fuck about that or similar things.
He's definitely more crazy / things changed.
He used to depend on that climate money and press for his car business.
Now he can shovel tax money directly into his own pocket, so he doesn't need to pretend anymore.
I dont remember a time where I both knew of him and thought he was a sane or rational person.
I wonder if I could make money selling body kits to make your Tesla look like a different car... 🤔
"Hey... Does that Prius look a bit off?"
Cybertruck with a Prius shell drives by
Cybertruck with a cardboard box over it, full Snake.
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...
"s'just a box"
Still better looking than the original
The new Prius actually looks pretty good too.
I bought this before I found out Elon was crazy. Man has always been insane, we just weren't listening yet.
Yep. Elons always been a massive piece of shit.
The idiots who've spent the past decade slobbing all up and down his knob have just willfully turned a blind eye to it cause they subjugated themselves to his derranged cult of personality, that was built all around the idea of his "saviour of humanity" bullshit with regards to his stupid rockets and electric cars.
Along those lines, the sticker shop from the story has since come out with one that says "I bought this before we knew Elon was crazy."
I'm just glad Tesla costs more than I can afford. Makes it very easy for the vast majority of us poor plebes to continue to not own one.
I so wanted a Chevy Bolt though.
Yeah. My lack of income saves me from a lot of scams I'm too poor for 😂
I always knew he was crazy, but I never thought he was “kill democracy” crazy. It’s a spectrum.
He was always crazy though. You just weren't paying attention then. No one remembers him going wild and calling the Thai rescue divers pedophiles to their face and all that?
The rescue divers were the first real public turning point. He has always been crazy, but he tried really, really, really hard to project a cool-uncle, anti-establishment persona online before that.
I think he eventually just realized he was rich enough to stop caring and so he stopped pretending.
"i bought this before elons insanity was public knowledge" ftfy
He was always a shitbag.
He just had good PR, and most people never listened to the people countering it.
Now, he’s fired the PR… and he’s still a shit bag with his crazy on.
Let's be real - all the car companies are owned by terrible people. If it's not Elon, it's some other soulless capitalist who pushed subsidies and lower efficiency standards for mega trucks that speed up global warming just as we're supposed to be slowing it down.
This is often my thought process when I have to interact with a big company. If I never did any business that would benefit a bad person, I’d basically have to live in a hut in the woods.
However, there are degrees. For years I was sure a model 3 performance would be the perfect next car for me, but now like many people I don’t think I’ll ever be able to stomach owning a Tesla. The Musk connection has blown way past being embarrassing, and now buying one of those damn cars feels like supporting or at least accepting some horrible parts of humanity.
It’s not even a matter of hurting Musk’s bottom line, even though that would be nice. It’s about self respect, trying to put positivity into people’s lives instead of negativity, and being able to look my kid in the eye when he’s an adult and remembers the fucked up years we’re about to endure. I want absolutely zero to do with normalizing fascism and bigotry, even when it comes to something so mundane as the logo on my car.
This ^^
All the CEOs are assholes. The American car companies should’ve collapsed, but instead took a bailout and wasted it. The American consumer benefited basically nothing from the bailout.
No Android Auto+CarPlay is enough for me to never buy one lol. I’m never paying a subscription on a car lmao.
Kudos to the Tesla owners who realize Musk is still an apartheid supporting turd. My colleague has a Tesla and his wife told him to dump the car.
Problem is, most Telsa owners still have cars that have many good years left in them, and buying a different new or pre owned EV will be a hit to the pocket book. Especially after selling a rapidly depreciating Tesla.
I get why people are saying “fuck it, I’ll put a sticker on it.” Selling and buying a new car isn’t a thing many people want to do at the drop of a hat. I
I live in an area where it seems like 50% of the cars are Teslas. Half my neighbors have them. Only stickers I’ve ever seen on a Tesla are “Student Driver”
If you buy a Tesla, you deserve all the ridicule you get
Here is my favorite.