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The International Criminal Court (ICC) has issued arrest warrants for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, former defense minister Yoav Gallant, and Hamas officials, accusing them of war crimes and crimes against humanity in Gaza and during the October 2023 attacks.

The court alleges actions like depriving Gaza civilians of essential resources.

Israel and the U.S., non-members of the ICC, reject the warrants, with Netanyahu calling them antisemitic.

Hamas also criticized the decision.

The practical enforcement of these warrants remains uncertain, as the ICC lacks authority to compel arrests.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 56 minutes ago

The US and others were fine with it when they issued a warrant for Putin, I'm sure they'll be on board for this as well, right?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 hours ago

''How are you today?'' ''That's an antisemitic question.''

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago
[–] ayyy 42 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

I heard that Bibi stubbed his toe on an antisemetic table this morning.

[–] ilovededyoupiggy 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Bibi has a table that prevents vomiting? What else is that bastard hiding?!

[–] ayyy 7 points 2 hours ago

Lmao thanks for pointing out the typo. Or perhaps it’s the zionists that keep making a mistake and are trying to tell us that ending the genocide in Gaza helps them throw up less?

[–] [email protected] 50 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Cue "ICC is antisemitic", just like the ICJ, the UN, every human rights organisation, the Special Rapporteur, independent journalists, protestors etc etc.

Antisemitism and victimhood are the only cards left for Zio fascists to play with.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 hour ago

The original Nazis would always claim that they represented the Arian Race and that any criticism of them was "against the Arian Race" and the Zionists, a Neue Nazi group, do the same only using a different ethnicity.

This is far from the only way in which these Neue Nazis are the same as the original Nazis.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 6 hours ago (5 children)

This is the correct call! A majority of Palestinians and Israeli do not want war. It’s a few bad apples on both sides and they should all be jailed.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

As someone living in Israel, that's a nice thought but a fundamental misunderstanding of Israeli politics. The vast majority of Israelis not only support war but support a complete and total genocide of every Muslim in the middle east. Furthermore a very large amount of Israelis see the hostages as an acceptable loss if it means they can kill more Palestinian civilians. Its not "a few bad apples", Israel is a fundamentally rotten "nation" that only exists on genocide and war.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

No one wants their lives disrupted by war. Settlers and the army do not represent the majority.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

The vast majority of Israelis either directly or indirectly support the army. Even the most progressive Israelis (specifically people who call themselves Israeli) will rarely speak out against war crimes.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Genocide takes a lot more than a few bad apples making a whoopsie.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 hours ago

Israelis are largely in favor of it. Netanyahus approval has skyrocketed, when they launched the offensive on Lebanon and Israelis opposing the wars and occupation are increasingly targeted by the government and government affiliated "settler" terror groups. These terror groups have ramped up their pogroms in East Jerusalem and the West Bank and decent Israelis who get in their way are beaten while the IDF watches.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago

The majority of Israelis do want war. They only want the hostages out more.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Israelis are terrorists who take part of the IDF to ensure the occupation of Palestine.

Of course, people like Haredi Jews and other minorities that don‘t take part of the IDF are innocent. But the rest are terrorists and should be treated as such. ✊

The Palestinian armed resistance is completely valid and it isn’t a „few bad apples“.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago

Shove em all in the same cell, add one vaguely sharp rock, leave them there indefinitely

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 hours ago
[–] Skiluros 123 points 8 hours ago (8 children)

Netanyahu and other Israeli leaders have condemned ICC Chief Prosecutor Karim Khan’s request for warrants as disgraceful and antisemitic.

Antisemitism does manifest itself in both casual and systematic forms. The region-specific component is also important.

However, claims regarding antisemitism from the Israeli government are increasingly becoming a "reverse confirmation" of sorts. One could almost argue that if they call something antisemitic, chances are it's actually not and may even be the correct course of action (clear cut cases notwithstanding).

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 hours ago

Decrying the persecution of crimes against humanity as antisemitic is quite something. It begs the question then, what these people see inherently Semitic about perpetrating these crimes.

The blatant misuse of this term is actually very harmful to Jews around the world, since calls of those actually suffering from anti-Jewish sentiment are not taken seriously anymore.

[–] Kecessa 14 points 5 hours ago

https://holocaustremembrance.com/resources/working-definition-antisemitism

That's the definition they use, so anything you say against the State they see as being against the ethnicity, which doesn't make sense.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

As a Jew, I'm becoming desensitized to the word "antisemitic." Even my Israeli cousins overuse the word and can't explain to me how this kind of shit is antisemitism beyond "Hamas wants to kill us."

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 hours ago

the Palestinians did not get to choose the ethnicity of their oppressors.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 hours ago

"You can't cry wolf and BE the wolves. Do you not understand what the villagers do to wolves?"

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 hours ago

TLDR: it’s not antisemitic, it’s just anti-Bibi.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 hours ago

It's the local variant of fake news.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Netanyahu and other Israeli leaders have condemned request for warrants as disgraceful and antisemitic.

I wasn't aware he was a stand up comedian. I mean, I always knew he was a clown.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

I doubt any country will have the stones to arrest him in the face of US pressure.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

At least with America going full mask off as a force of evil, the rest of the world can stop waiting on us to do the right thing.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 hours ago

Seriously if anything good can come from this the U.S. needs to stop fucking around with other countries sovereignty and handle it's own affairs for a few decades.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

Those warrants aren't worth the paper they're printed on, but it's still nice to see official bodies outside the US calling Netanyahu what he is.

[–] RedstoneValley 1 points 57 minutes ago* (last edited 55 minutes ago)

Not exactly. The ratifying countries are bound by contract to arrest them. Plus It's a serious issue not to do it, because this would delegitimize the ICC as an institution, which is not in the interest of most ratifying countries. So it essentially boils down to a choice between losing the court as a valuable weapon against war criminals or bad relations with Israel.

What happens after an arrest is another matter and I think that is where the real pressure would happen

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

These warrants absolutely matter in terms of being a trumo card in several legal issues relating to EU-Israel relations.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

It's a nice thought. I won't hold my breath expecting any real consequences for Israel, though.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 hours ago

The saddest thing is that if they do take action, it will be the lowest bar possible of accountability. They'll for example ban products from illegal settlements and then let Israel redurect them anyways.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 hours ago

Those warrants are worth a lot. Not enough to put them behind bars, but still a lot!

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Finally! Now arrest the fuckers.

[–] Kecessa 7 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

He first needs to come out of Israel to visit a country that recognizes the ICC...

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

And then the country still needs to actually arrest him. Am I right, Mongolia?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

He is not Putler though. Israelis may be war criminals as much as Russians are but their strength to influence other states decision is somewhat limited. Apart from the USA of course which for some reason appears to be Israeli puppet.

[–] Kecessa 1 points 2 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

What do rank and file military realize they have to start refusing certain orders?

When do the Americans cut off the supply of certain weapons?

When does the Israeli populace see that a radically new direction is needed to secure peaceful relations "from the river to the sea"?

[–] [email protected] 55 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

They’ve been preparing for this for a while. Months ago already I remember reading accusations of the ICC being antisemitic by Israelis and various sympathisers. The old fiddle that never stops playing.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 hours ago

Now do their enablers.

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