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Summary

Donald Trump’s education agenda centers on eliminating “wokeness” and “left-wing indoctrination” in schools.

His plans include banning lessons on gender identity and structural racism, abolishing diversity offices, and barring transgender athletes in girls’ sports.

He aims to cut federal funding for schools defying his policies and eliminate the U.S. Education Department. Trump also proposes “patriotic education,” a nationwide ban on transgender athletes in women’s sports, and new teacher credentialing standards.

Critics argue these policies are politically driven, undermine education, and lack evidence. Many initiatives would face legal and procedural hurdles.

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[–] Ghyste 74 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I came here to post this, but you beat me to it.

[–] Ghyste 8 points 4 days ago
[–] [email protected] 63 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I love the use of these vague terms of “wokeness” and “left-wing indoctrination” which can change meaning any time to fit whatever narrative is trying to be pushed 😑

[–] jwiggler 69 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Teacher: "Slavery was bad."

Republicans: "We need to end this indoctrination of our children."

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This isn't an exaggeration, this literally has been happening already before the GOP controlled the entire federal government.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago

Anything that makes "white kids" uncomfortable or "guilty" is being banned which 100% includes the mention of slavery.

Or maybe parents shouldn't tie their identity to traitorous states that murdered Americans so rich people could own black people.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Someone used the same tactic in the 30s in Germany

[–] [email protected] 43 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago
[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Anytime you see the word "woke" or "wokeness" from a conservative, replace it with "kindness".

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 days ago

IMHO "compassion" would be a better substitute.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

Sometimes it's just intelligence. They're very proud of their ignorance and hate.

[–] stringere 11 points 4 days ago

He aims to cut federal funding for schools defying his policies and eliminate the U.S. Education Department.

He aims to use funding as a cudgel to coerce schools to do his bidding while also aiming to remove the cudgel he plans to use to coerce schools to do his bidding.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 6 days ago (1 children)

End wokeness, bring back naptime!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Naps, the best daytime cure for woke.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

I've been woke for way too long.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 days ago (2 children)

In a hilarious way if he destroys the federal department of education he can no longer tell states what they are allowed to teach

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 days ago

Republicans aren't actually pro small government/freedom. That's all just opposition rhetoric. When they are in power, it's as much government in your face as possible.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Balkanization is really one of the only possible paths out of this, I feel like.

But then we'll all have crazy far right nutjobs doing cross-border raids, because they've shown for decades that they are incapable of running a state and keeping it solvent without help from the (now defunct) federal government.

[–] vaultdweller013 2 points 5 days ago

Theyd only be raiders so long as nobody decides to wipe them out, and frankly speaking theyd probably get whittled down by most folks over time. Hell I could see raiders from sub-urban areas being the basis for a polis system emerging in red states.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

Can all the assholes move to Idaho? Seems it is their kind of "freedom".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

Google and Wikipedia are your friends if you know how to use them. Maybe learn a bit about Yugoslavia.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Can't wait to have the public school system completely dismantled in favor of charter schools... You know those for profit, less regulated, fund stealing... Alternative schools to public ones that they have been trying to push for years now... They also cost money who would of thought

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Also, those public schools have to take your kids.

Charter or Private Schools? Nope. If your kid is a dumbass or dicks around too much and gets shitty grades sorry, homey. We don't want your kid. Oh, there's no other schools? Tough titty.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The flip side of this is charter schools aren't required to take special needs kids, either. Oh, your kid has Down Syndrome or is Autistic and needs additional staff or effort? Sorry, they're not welcome here. They have to go to the public school. The public school doesn't have enough funding to afford Special Ed teachers because it's all been vouchered away to charter schools? Tough titty.

Public schools work because the money pays for things like Special Education and Gifted and Talented programs. Charter schools can't afford either, so they don't provide either. Even ignoring the possible pitfalls of for-profit motives, you're going to end up with a weakened education system because without collective funding, all education must be geared towards the statistical average.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

And without the department of education they won't track who is falling behind or not... So it must be fine....

Also Reading scores are falling and thats exactly what they want... Can't stay informed if its not given to you on 10 sec clips... Which is why we are where we are...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Let's not forget about how he wants to end the department of education... Lets just get segregation back even though you are going to kick out all the people of color from this country... Say goodbye to financial aid to make it harder for poor people to get educated when you have to pay for your school....

Even if only Half of the shit he wants to do gets through it's already too much ..

I'm already sick of hearing about him again multiple times a day... I was so relieved when he wasn't president the last time and we heard almost nothing about Biden... It was refreshing...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

No state oversight of curriculum, so ripe for indoctrinating.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

He gets more moronic daily

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Let me guess, next he’s going to force math lessons to teach children how much it costs the public to care for the disabled

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago

I'm sure the dumbasses that voted for this asshole will be able to make a connection between priorities like this and lowering the price of eggs and bacon.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I can only imagine how far into the future this will eventually sink the republican party. But let's take a look, can't do much about it since we're too stupid to see how dumb the whole electoral college thing is. California holding a miniscule number of representatives so if you live in California, you basically got no voice. But if you milk cows in Montana, then you can force Florida to have the ten commandments in schools.

You can only push people so far. Specially if we get invaded by China and suddenly all normalcy goes out the window.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I was with you till the last sentence. No one can invade the US. It's literally impossible for any country to do, or even every country. Unfortunately for us and the rest of the world, having a 2500 mile front on one side and a 3500 mile front on the other makes us untouchable.

The only weapons that any country could use directly against the US with its current military are ICBMs and I'm pretty sure that is the one weapon no one wants to use. Except Trump, cause he's a moron.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's not impossible to invade the US. It's been done several times already, for example 1942 and 1812. Mexico, which shares the same oceanic borders, was invaded by France in 1861 and of course the entirety of the Americas was essentially invaded by colonial settlers.

It's unlikely for other reasons, but nothing about it is impossible.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

It is flat out a logistical impossibility for any nation to do currently, or anytime soon. No one except the US has a deep water Navy, and no one that has an army that we couldn't immediately steamroll with the National Guard, also has the craft to transport said army across an ocean.

Currently, and for the foreseeable future, it's impossible, and not worth even considering as a possibility.

Oh, and if you're referring to the Japanese "invasion" of 1942, that wasn't an invasion. They never landed an army, neither did the Nazis, for the exact same reasons I just specified. Sure they had deep water navies. We promptly sank their navies so that we couldn't be touched.

The last country that dared to touch our shit was Russia, before that Iran. It didn't go well for either of them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Even China's massive navy is built for controlling local waters and has no way to defeat the US and land troops.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No more diversity, equality and inclusion. Instead there'll be discrimination, inequality and exclusion.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

Apt acronym: DIE vs DEI

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago

We are already completely indoctrinated into capitalism at school. We dont learn of our country's wrong doings to their own civilians. We dont learn of any other method of governing even just to inspect and question it. We are already in capitalist indoctrination camps. The left does not actually exist in this country because you can't do anything that potentially harms profits if you aren't an elite.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Great another president that wants to start wars against ideas and facets of culture 🙄

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

Oh, they tried to do this in sweden. They have promissed an examination of "wokeness" in higher education. They celebrated a university forbidding "any conversation a passer by could interpret as political". They have not started it yet, and they just changed the guy that is supposed to be the anti-woke minister in this context after the summer. So we will share this journey.