Thought I'd add that mass phone calls are a tactic used by the NRA and other powerful lobby groups. Getting a lot of their group's members to voice their opinion is the key to their success...perhaps to the point of making an office fearful of the backlash via phone calls for going against them.
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The real power of the NRA is their membership is mostly reliable voters.
It also helps if you have a very specific and narrow cause .. muh guns rights .. and anti or pro specific legislation. This creates broad consensus.. that follows the NRA draft talking points they usually bring out.
How many calls cancel out each dollar from corporate lobbying
Less than you would think, but it also depends on how you contact them. A physical call is way more powerful than an email. 10 people passionate enough to call can easily translate to 1k people passionate enough to vote about it.
It's highly variable, and yes I absolutely agree money in politics is a big problem. I do have a direct experience where reaching out to my Senators led to them aggressively and successfully opposing a provision in a law that would have had a big impact on me. Don't want to dox myself, but this real change to a bill made a huge difference to me and many others. So it is possible to make an impact.
God, the doomerism in the comments here fucking sucks. If you won’t even pick up a phone why am I expected to believe you’ll be the hardest antifa soldier there ever was when the revolution comes (which, conveniently, is never)?
This is more embarrassing than those people who spend real life money prepping for a zombie apocalypse. At least those people have things that might actually be useful in a real disaster.
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They actually do care believe it or not. When our city council was voting on municipal fiber we showed up to petition our conservative city council representative to vote in favor. Guess who also attended, a representative from our federal senator’s office. Oh man the look on his face when only 3 members of the public showed up, two of them major supporters of municipal broadband, and the third spoke up to agree with us. Mmmm priceless. The city council man and conservative rep were so damn flustered. The senator’s rep took notes the whole time and we got to talk to him one on one. These outreach events do way more than you would think, this is how they gauge what they can get away with. Don’t let them discourage you, show up and bitch!
If anyone doubts it, just look what lunatic conservative Karens have done at school board meetings across the country.
It's gross when it's about banning books, but when it's something positive, it's actually pretty amazing to see. Like the handful of students that you'd see show up between Karens to give impassioned pleas to, you know, please don't do that.
A self-fulfilling prophecy if his constituents don't try to make him care
If anything that makes it more important. We already know how essentially all the Democrats are going to vote. A couple of Republican defections is all it takes to hold the Senate.
The key here is they don’t have to defect on everything. Turning every Republican senator into a never Trumper isn’t happening. But making some of them defect some of the time is a lot more feasible, and requires constant pressure.
This is exactly why the OP exists! My state has been solid blue for a decade now. I trust my senators not to vote to confirm AG Gaetz, but they NEED a few Republicans to join them. It looks like Collins and Murkowski have come out against him. We need a few more, and OP is saying that calling is one of the few things that may influence them. Certainly more likely than bitching on Lemmy.
The one tradeoff to having Democrats representing me in Congress (both house district and Senate) is that I don't have anyone to call over stuff like this because they're already on my side... Although for some reason my governor (who has been awesome otherwise) has been praising RFK for HHS, so maybe I'll need to call his office and my senators about that one. Anyway, PLEASE don't fall into the opposite trap and give his office a call!
"We should call our representatives"
"na na why should I bother? This requires effort and I have to figure out what to say. And anyway my cynicism dictates that it doesn't matter. na na blah blah"
"How do you know, you've never tried"
"I just know blah blah they don't care blah blah"
"Well, you've definitely proved that not calling produces no results"
They don't have to take away your power if you stop yourself from using it first. Don't willingly give up your voice.
I've tried nothing and it hasn't worked. I'm all out of ideas.
Being aware of local and state government is always a good thing to do and so much stuff is streamed since Covid. It makes you an informed voter and it's where most of the stuff that impacts you will take place. Marijuana is one example of the impact of state law winning out despite federal law.
Reach out in any form you choose. Get to know them and what they stand for through their actions. Explain how things will effect you and people you know. Like anywhere else being an asshole is not the way to go. You might not change their mind but reminding them that everyday voters are paying attention has an effect even if you respectfully disagree.
I’ve been calling my representatives nonstop for a year to end their support for the genocide in Palestine. When is this supposed to start working?
These tactics are not always a guarantee to have things go your way, but they increase the chances. For phone calling, numbers of people calling in matter the most, particularly at strategic times, including: right after big announcements, right before a committee vote, right before a floor vote. It's also more effective before dominant narratives have arisen around a topic and there is uncertainty on how things could shake out.
These tactics are not always a guarantee to have things go your way
See also: Atlanta city council voting for Cop City despite over two hundred people showing up at the meeting, in person, to speak against it. (Not to mention a petition for a referendum that got hundreds of thousands of signatures but was illegally withheld from the ballot anyway.)
You're right that actually talking to your representatives works surprisingly often, but sometimes it really blatantly doesn't.
That’s a nice fantasy. But the sooner you accept reality, the sooner you can begin to get to work on actual solutions, instead of playing along with the illusion.
Why not use multiple tactics? It's not all or nothing and yes I'm certain Senate offices care about hearing from constituents, far more effective than simply doom scrolling.
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it doesn't work, this trick is merely a psyop to shift the blame from the regime whores to plebs.
If you want your voice to be heard, get a lobbying like an adult alpha male.
Some inside perspective:
You are talking to staff or an intern. You might be the hundredth call for the day. They’ve heard all kinds of shit, from long-winded conspiracy crazies to the most courteous and intelligent calls ever. Yelling at them or being a jerk will get you nowhere. Be prepared to state your case clearly and concisely. Your concern will indeed be noted and logged.
Do not call a congressperson that isn’t your own. They are not required to listen to you, you are not their constituent. Do not write a congressperson that is not your own. The letter is almost guaranteed to go straight into the trash.
The best letters go on the intern break room fridge to be enjoyed by all.
Even so, unfortunately the congressperson may not act in a way consistent with the majority of people’s calls and letters. Thank money and power plays in politics for that.
Do not call a congressperson that isn’t your own. They are not required to listen to you, you are not their constituent.
Unless they happen to be chairing a committee that you have an opinion on.
Then it's fair game.
Counterpoint: call them anyway. Gum up the works. Change the mind of their interns. Send enough letters that it becomes a waste disposal problem.
Be annoying and difficult and make them work for every inch.
But also be nice. The interns are people too.
Just called mine! I probably sounded like an ignoramus, but hopefully I said enough intelligible buzz words.
Awesome!
YSK call your house rep. They're more likely to answer. Also call your state reps first. Most issues are handled on a state level, not federal, and state house reps tend to be the most accessible.
Totally agree it's important to engage all levels of government. But only the US Senate has the authority over nominations
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They don't give a shit about that. They don't pick up their phones.
They have automated email responses, and if you send them an email you are put on their campaign donation mailing lists.
If you can't get in their face or them into your back pocket it is not worth it.
Revolution is required at this point.
Have you tried calling their phones? Sure some don't pick up, but enough do.
I'm in favor of larger structural changes, but I'm not about to roll over and allow fascists to get everything they want in the current system. How many people do you expect to join a revolution if they won't even be bothered to pick up a phone?
I love threads like this. I find so many interesting people to block
LOL
Sure they do.
How do you know? Have you ever actually tried?
I think the lack of correlation between public opinion and government policy is more than satisfactory to demonstrate how much our federal legislators care about your phone calls, yes.
I think the lack of correlation between public opinion and government policy is more than satisfactory to demonstrate how much our federal legislators care about your phone calls, yes.
I hear you and acknowledge it is frustrating. But your assumption seems to be that your view is shared by all and thus "public opinion" aligns perfectly with what you believe or at least that a majority agrees with you. We all do this because we imagine our opinions to be sensible and hey, why wouldn't other people share them? But they don't.
I have. Quite a lot. I think they actually made things worse just to spite me.
Cool. I'm actually in the same boat. My House rep is a Republican fuckwit who's been in office for a billion years, give or take. We agree on exactly nothing. I still call and email for the simple reason that even though he will always go with the majority opinion if I don't do it then there will never be a chance for it to not be the majority opinion. I know it seems futile but it still important to represent our views and make sure those we disagree with aren't the only thing they hear.
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Unless you're wealthy enough to own two or three senators they don't give a flying fuck what any of us have to say.
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