It's easy, there's no such thing as a good Russia for Liberals. Can't be Capitalist, can't be Socialist, can't be Tsarist...
this post was submitted on 12 Nov 2024
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The only good Russia is one that's Balakanized and exploited by western oligarchs.
From interacting with liberals they seem to think Russia is still under a communist party.
Sometimes they try to decouple liberalism from fascism and claim they went straight to fascism from Socialism.
they liked 90s russia, when it was weak, full of child prostitutes and people were dying en-masse from substance abuse (and the barn doors were wide open so they could loot it)
History starts when I say it does
I too enjoy a good strawman fallacy.
Would you mind elaborating?
I’m guessing they’re talking along the tune of ‘communism was never done right’ except it’s ‘the liberalism was never done right’
Oh almost certainly, I just never waste an opportunity I see to hopefully educate someone a bit more on Marxist Theory if I can.
Not the other commenter but the meme infers USSR was better, and infers people knew what was to happen afterwards. Russia was making progress a little bit before Putin. I constantly think about what if I wasn't adopted. I'll probably be dead, forced to fight on the wrong side of war in Ukrainian. Then again idk what the USSR would be if it never fallen, completely blocking foreigners from adopting their orphans.
The USSR was better for the vast majority of the population, 7 million people died due to its collapse. When the former Socialist state was sliced up and sold for parts, just like the "Washington Consensus" wanted, the people paid the price with their blood. The modern Russian Federation and all its ills stem from that liberalization of the economy and subsequent plundering. Putin is just a label for what liberalism accomplished, even without Putin the RF would have taken a similar if not near identical course.
I didn't know how I got back to ml lol I'm out
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