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🌱The Vegan Userbase on Lemmy Has Reached 110 Users!🌱 (lemmy.vg)

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The vegan community is growing on the lemmyverse now at 110 registered users that makes a MAU of 69 (0.15%) of the 44.9k Lemmy userbase.

If we apply the 90-9-1 rule with rounding factored in, we would have 55 lurkers, 5 small contributors and 1 contributor.

Lemmy.vg has 39 users, 7 communities, 533 posts, 376 comments and 18 6mo active users. Started on 24-05-09.

Vegantheoryclub.org has 71 users, 13 communities, 1200 posts, 2500 comments and 51 6mo active users. Started on 24-04-10.

[email protected] has 106 posts, 110 comments, 83 subscribers and 671 6mo visitiors.

[email protected] has 388 posts, 1300 comments, 310 subscribers and 2500 6mo visitors.

Here are the signup pages if you’re interested: Lemmy.vg and Vegantheoryclub.org both are anarchist.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 month ago (3 children)

There are definitely more vegans on lemmy but given they are frequently targeted with harassment and trolling I doubt all of them are willing to expose themselves to such behavior.

I'm happy lemmy is flexible enough to offer spaces for all of us, assholes be damned. Thanks for offering places for people to feel comfortable!

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Thanks for not fucking up the planet any faster than you have to, and for being a better person than I am.

I've almost given up meat. I don't see myself ever giving up cheese. But I appreciate you guys and what you're (not) doing.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

I don't see myself ever giving up cheese.

Never say never. I thought the same for some time.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Thanks for not fucking up the planet any faster than you have to, and for being a better person than I am.

Agree with this however I'm not vegan and don't want to take underserved credit for the effort it takes to make it a permanent change.

I'm heading down the path but still have a ways to go to the destination.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

If everyone made an effort we'd live in a completely different world almost over night. At least as someone who cares about sustainability side of it, that's what matters. But I appreciate that veganism consists of a bunch of different forms of arguments and motivations.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

My path to veganism has more to do with refusing to be poisoned by the corporate clowns that don't care they're killing us all with listeria and microplastics in EVERYTHING and a supply chain that I refuse to depend on.

It shouldn't be unreasonable to buy and consume healthy vegetables from a normal store but it gets harder every day. My means of survival will not be affected by recalls and cross contamination, corporate greed, or animal slavery.

IMO- Our survival will depend on our ability to take back control from companies that would sell us our doom with a shiny ribbon wrapped around it. Self-sustainable veganism is my bet for our future and I'm doing everything I can to bring it to reality as quickly as I can.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

If everyone made an effort we’d live in a completely different world almost over night.

set a date

[–] kwomp2 -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This statement (about everyone single personal effort) only becomes meaningful when you take into consideration why people don't. If you do, you will encounter the dialectics of structure and "personal choice" and how complicated history is and how it is not at all about "everybody make a small change in their life".

The liberal feverdream of individual solutions for structural problems is bound to end up in "I buy good groceries".

And, eventhough veganism is a good thing to do, this is why I'm personally so annoyed by vegan communities.

I dont know if reducing your personal sin count or whatever is a substitute for radical critique and political action, or an add-on, so I didn't downvote. But maybe it explains some of it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

How are the corporations and governments going to change if one person doesn’t commit the first action of doing better and inspiring others to do the same. As people buy animal products in grocery stores and people vote in carnist political parties.

The liberal feverdream of individual solutions for structural problems is bound to end up in "I buy good groceries".

And, eventhough veganism is a good thing to do, this is why l'm personally so annoyed by vegan communities.

That’s a strawman because if you were paying attention you would notice that vegans are doing street outreach, disruptive protests and factory farm liberation to save the animal victims from immense suffering. They’re not simply buying “good groceries”

Universal suffrage, abolition and gay marriage didn’t just suddenly came out of thin air because corporations and governments decided to become nicer no it was it was the unsurmountable pressure by the people protesting for better treatment for all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Universal suffrage, abolition and gay marriage didn’t just suddenly came out of thin air because corporations and governments decided to become nicer

of course not. it was people advocating for their recognition as fully human

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

How are the corporations and governments going to change if one person doesn’t commit the first action of doing better and inspiring others to do the same.

didn't you already try that

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (8 children)

You're doing more than the vast majority of people, so this isn't supposed to be an attack but isn't it kinda selfish to still eat cheese when you, from what it seems like, understand why it's wrong? Anyway, actual cheese can already be made vegan but, at least in the EU, the company just isn't allowed to sell it because they're still waiting for approval but other companies like Rewe are also starting to invest in it, so hopefully it won't take long until it can be sold. I think they're starting to sell it outside the EU tho.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Same, and honestly, that's enough for now. It already cuts out a giant portion of the footprint and I got so many other things to worry about, I can work on finding replacement cheese that isn't a joke later.

[–] girsaysdoom 10 points 1 month ago (9 children)

For real. There's a significant number of downvotes on this article even. What the hell?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Clowns doing clown things. I'd recommend an instance with downvotes disabled but it's all personal preference.

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[+] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Joining a vegan community exposes you to toxic trolls that are hostile to the very idea of veganism aka carnists. Their comments are eventually removed at least. Calling things you do not like Nazis is extremely poor taste. Nazis killed an estimated 17 million people. This is very serious. You are comparing Nazis to vegans who just want animals to stop dying for human consumption. More than 80 billion land animals are slaughtered for meat every year worldwide. You may not value an animal as equal to a human life, but you must admit this is messed up.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (6 children)

You literally called the vegans in lemmy communities "veganazis" and I'm not going to let that slide, it is not ok.

No it does not prove your point, I did not address "militant" vegans and "sane" vegans because I think your thoughts on this are reactionary bullshit. I don't think you've even been in the vegan lemmy communities, because vegans are actual people with different views and you only want to talk about a stereotype carnists use to whine. You want nuance but don't give it to vegans. Why? I mean you're either a troll or misguided.

I have a non-vegan/carnist SO, I'm not the only one that dates non-vegans. My family is non-vegan. My friends in RL are all non-vegan. You apparently know all about my life even though I have never tried to convert people into a "cult" or shunned people for not being vegan. I have only talked about veganism when it is prompted, like when people were curious why I decided to switch or online when the subject comes up. Different vegans have different approaches to things. Some vegans only date other vegans, after the bullshit I've gone through with my non-vegan/carnist SO I can see why.

I felt you leaned reactionary due to your take on veganism but replied anyway in good faith because your use of the word Nazi was unacceptable. Why is it a cult to not eat meat? Why am I the Nazi for wanting the animals to stop dying? The answer to me is that people who eat meat can get incredibly defensive when you point out that it is messed up what happens to animals so that they can eat meat from the grocery store. It is bad for the environment too. In order to deflect from this revelation they decide their behavior is not the problem, it is the "militant" vegans in a "cult" thinking they are better than everyone that is the problem. This is all reactionary thinking. I've only seen this reaction online and once in person. I would love for everyone to be a vegan but I know it is not realistic. It is not a matter of how vegans communicate, it is how people process their justification for eating meat. You can be as sweet as possible about being vegan and a carnist will still spit in your face. They don't want to hear about veganism, they frankly don't give a shit about animals no matter how you deliver the message to them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Well said! Thank you for being vegan and standing up for what’s right!

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Now you’re gaslighting the person responding to your comment, that’s very bad faith troll behaviour.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

We exist!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

cool. I guess I'm effectively vegan now so maybe I'll find some good recipes on here

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

I’m a lurker. Vegetarian myself but my wife is vegan.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

People can have more than one account, so there might be overlap between these two instances.

Also, having an account on one of these two doesn't make you a vegan, just like having an account on any other instance doesn't mean you're not a vegan.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

If there where any more they'd have told us already.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I didn't get counted so I say you have 111 vegans hehe

[–] Varyk 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

is there any information on the User-Base by nationality?

some of us were wondering on another thread since there are so many communities in different languages, but I can't find any way to tell the ballpark nationality percentages of the users here.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I don’t think there is as these instances haven’t done surveys on nationality as of yet.

I have seen English, French, Swedish, Portuguese, German and Vietnamese vegan communities though.

[–] Varyk 1 points 1 month ago

I'm curious, since the federation seems a lot more geographically decentralized then reddit did.