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[–] [email protected] 75 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Software parents are such absolute horseshit.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago

I mean if they help children grow when they have no real parents...

[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (8 children)

For reference, the allegedly infringing patents are these:

[–] blargbluuk 113 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

How do these not apply to the majority of games, these sound so insanely broad. Patents are so stupid.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Sony has a patent for an input device having two data streams at once

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago

usb has more i think.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

They only apply to games from Japan. This is the Japanese patent system.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

But why in english if it's (seemingly) domestic only.
Are they mandated to submit in English?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

The posted text could be translation. Kinda reads like it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

How many Japanese games are there? Nintendo better pick up the pace.

[–] conciselyverbose 73 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Holy hell.

Even by the standard of "all software patents are nonsense", these are a fucking joke.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 weeks ago

It basically hits any game with mounts or vehicles.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Hold my bacon, one can patent the idea that a game character switches mounts depending on a given state? (Image 3)

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago

Seems like it. So when you come down from the sky on your flying mount and get close to the ground, you swap to a horse mount for example.

How can one patent this.. wtf!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Software patents are fucked, ain't they? You can implement a thing using completely different code, algorithms, hell even programming languages/CPU architectures, and you'd still be infringing. There was some stupid fight over a simple slider UI element to unlock a phone a few years back.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah software patents should be like "this exact code" or something along these lines. I mean patenting "hello world" should give you billions

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Code is already copyrighted by default, so no need for software patents. Luckily software patents are null and void in EU, so I don't have to worry about that.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago

The solutions here don't seem to really be solutions in my opinion, especially the third one. It's like if the problem a patent solves was "being able to individually package sandwiches on a conveyor belt" and the solution was "have a machine that recognizes where one sandwich ends and another begins so it can stop and start packaging appropriately." Like, no kidding, but how?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

So the first two seem to deal with throwing a capture item at a creature (wild pokemon) and/or releasing a character's own creature to fight it (essentially first seen in Legends Arceus, tossing a ball at a pokemon to aggro it and then fighting it with your pokemon). The third one is, as others have said, Mount transitions (at least in pokemon, also first seen in Legends Arceus if you only count ride pokemon; if vehicles are included I believe the first would be Sword/Shield). Though if vehicles are included Nintendo would have a hard time fighting that one. Vehicle transformation, especially in racing games, has been around forever.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Why are there dates in the corners?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

These are the patent publication dates, for more details you can check https://patentscope.wipo.int/ with patents 7545191, 7493117 and 7528390

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

These look like they are after Palworld was released. Was Nintendo just sitting on the patent since Pokeman red/blue? What an unintuitive legal system they have over in Japan.

[–] IcyToes 4 points 2 weeks ago

How can you infringe on a patent that doesn't exist when you're writing the code?hopefully Palworld can afford the lawyers to kill this off now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

If these were stories I was picking up to implement I would be asking the BA to elaborate some more 😂

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 weeks ago

Looking through the first one's content and it seems reasonable? The patent's abstract is supposed to be as widely applicable as legally permitted, so it's like a completely different language on top of legalese.

[–] sentient_loom 48 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

Yet people keep buying from them

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Can't wait for gamers to completely ignore this and buy their next console and pokémon game

[–] snugglesthefalse 8 points 2 weeks ago

I've stopped giving Nintendo money for anything, it's been about 5 years now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Nah fuck them. Got a switch + games. Account hacked. Wrote to tech sup. Nothing but automated answer. Gave that shit away never again

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago

Nintendo sues everyone they can because as an IP holder of some seriously valuable properties, everything else in the gaming industry just looks like free real estate for them to colonize. I can make a game called "Dog Fighters" and I'm sure they'll find a way to tell me they own that idea.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This will end badly and will hurt gaming. Remember when Nintendo made modding games illegal in Japan..

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Still it would be best for Ninny to lose this one hard.

First: if they won't there will be more to come for other games, stopping any innovation in this genre.

Second: Their lawsuits are hitting other software developers (see Yuzu/Ryujinx cases), players and content creators and we need some case where they lose so they don't go even wilder

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

I curse patents

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

Oh I haven't played that in a while. Looks like a bunch of updates