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Summary

Trump won Dearborn and made significant gains in Hamtramck due to anger among Arab American and Muslim communities over deaths in Gaza, Lebanon, and Yemen.

Trump received 42.48% of the vote in Dearborn and 42.7% in Hamtramck, compared to 36.26% and 46.2% for Vice President Kamala Harris, respectively.

Despite Trump’s victory in Dearborn, the Republican nominee for U.S. Senator lost to the Democratic nominee.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

Honestly the schadenfreude is going to be epic on this one!

[–] [email protected] 40 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Imagine being so fucking stupid you vote Trump to handle Gaza

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago

In their defense, he'll "handle" Gaza. It turns out his "handling" is just the annihilation of any Arab within 1,000 miles of Gaza. But at least they can rest easy knowing that they "sent a message"?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

You see, they are conservative and don't really want progressive policies, and the Palestinian genocide gave them cover to vote for a strong patriarch that felt comfortable to them.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 hours ago

I don't know why people are downvoting you, they literally banned the lgbtq flag there once they gained power.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/17/hamtramck-michigan-muslim-council-lgbtq-pride-flags-banned

This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.

[–] [email protected] 89 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

Well now you've handed Gaza to the butcher and good luck if you want to protest without getting arrested.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

If every single Jill Stein voter had voted for Harris instead, Trump still would have won.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

They’re complete fucking idiots throwing away their vote . . . but at least they went to the trouble of voting?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Voting is always better than not voting, yes.

And in a functional democratic system, voting for a candidate who's against genocide would be better than voting for a candidate who's currently part of the government supplying the genociders.

Sadly, the US aren't such a system.

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[–] [email protected] 100 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

They just signed Gaza's death warrant.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (30 children)

No. The election results are a blowout, larger than just this subcommunity.

I'm annoyed at Muslims for failing to back Harris and prevent the future atrocities. But I will not blame them. Trump got too many votes in general, and might even win the popular vote.

EDIT: We need a bigger reckoning than just blaming a minority of the minority. I don't want to blame Harris either, she seemed to do the best that she was given but it always was long odds given that she's a Half-Indian Half-Black Woman. (Racism from Whites, Racism from Indians for being a race-traitor, and then sexism from everyone including minorities).

But this is a bigger election loss than "just" a minority failing to show up to vote. We lost the Senate, Presidency, and probably the House.


EDIT: Kamala needed to win PA, WI, and MI. She literally lost all three of them. A large outspoken minority of just one State (MI) is not to blame for the PA or WI losses.

[–] Shiggles 44 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

They all get to share the blame. What are you even trying to say? “Damn guys, I voted for hitler but it’s okay he won by more than a single vote so I didn’t even matter”

[–] [email protected] 18 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

I'm saying we needed like 10-million more votes to even reach parity with Biden 2020 here.

Complaining about a few hundred-thousand votes in one, albeit important, swing state, is missing the forests for the trees. This is a resounding defeat of the Democrat's platform this year.

The platform goes above and beyond just Harris btw. I'm including "Fascism" and other such arguments we used online / memes that clearly didn't work well enough. We need to talk about everything and prepare for 2026 and 2028.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

The platform goes above and beyond just Harris btw. I'm including "Fascism" and other such arguments we used online / memes that clearly didn't work well enough.

I've been trying to say that for ages, but got called (and still get called) a MAGA troll.

Edit: Got called a Trumper in this very thread. Again. Fix your country, y'all.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I don't want to blame Harris either, she seemed to do the best that she was given but it always was long odds given that she's a Half-Indian Half-Black Woman. (Racism from Whites, Racism from Indians for being a race-traitor, and then sexism from everyone including minorities).

This is bullshit rhetoric. She ran a shit campaign of trying to appease republican voters and cater to the snowflake right wing fear machine by shushing Palestine voices to back genocide directly and trying to sound tougher on immigration and border policy in the face of literal fascist policy campaigns by Trump. This is 100% the fault and failure of the Harris campaign’s strategy and the DNC for being so chicken shit scared of losing that they kept the corpse in chief in the running for too long. Catering to the fascist right policies never works and ignoring insanely popular progressive policy always fails. The beatings will continue until morale improves.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 13 hours ago (15 children)

If true, fucking morons. You just handed the keys to the guy who is single handedly going to let the Middle East burn.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 hours ago

If all of these people voted Harris, Trump still won.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Oh great, we've reached the blaming minorities part of the program.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

I blame the smallest minority: jill stein

Can't wait four the next 3 years of nothing from her.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Stein voters werent a deciding factor in any swing states. So maybe they contributed, but theres more to it than that.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

If Jill Stein wasn't there those people would've voted for someone else or stayed home. The democrats had a whole year to tell Bibi to knock it off, and they didn't.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 hours ago (5 children)

I wish I had that gif of Dems plugging their ears while walking past genocide protestors outside the convention this year.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Who's that woman in front? Feels like I've seen her before.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

No clue, but she might be a local rep for you?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

Oh no I'm not even American. Anyway then I guess it's just me.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago

I love these threads. All the shitheads pop up to get blocked.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

The lack of support for Harris among Arab-Americans may not have been rational, but it was completely predictable—and it was something the Harris campaign could have addressed by at least suggesting she might reconsider Biden’s policies.

Blame isn’t zero-sum—we’re all responsible for the predictable results of our actions (or inactions), even if those results were overdetermined.

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