Imagine being so fucking stupid you vote Trump to handle the economy
politics
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.
Example:
- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
"He's a businessman, he knows business." I don't think business and economics are the same thing.
"Economy" --> "Financial markets"
And yes, people with savings are beating inflation with yields on their investments, not with wage increases.
The fact that it only increases the inequality and wealth concentration for everyone* but the very few on the top is lost in the timeframe.
*I do mean almost everyone, even with a few mil in savings (stock, bond, real-estate, etc markets) & insane gains for decades now these people are worse off compared to how much monies & power the billionaire class gained.
This brings me back to a point I keep on making; I really do not care if the vast majority of people vote selfishly. In fact, I want you to vote selfishly.
Just for the love of God be smart about it.
You're hurting? You're feeling economic pain? Absolutely take those feelings into the ballot box with you.
But why in the absolute fuck would you vote for the guy who has promised to make everything more expensive?
The problem is not that people are selfish. Selfish is fine, selfish is good. We can work with selfish. But what we need, desperately, is to teach people how to act effectively in their own self interest, instead of being lead around by the nose by billionaires.
That starts at the formative years. You can't all the sudden instill some new sense of self in a 30 something year old man, grinding away at work for the last 10 years, only to have enough money to come home, drink a six pack and watch the sports package or play whatever latest video game.
In order to be smart about it, they have to take the steps and spend the time to educate themselves.
Maybe if you go around the billionaires and make that easier, cheaper, faster or more enjoyable you stand a chance... but I have no idea what that even looks like. Or how you prevent billionaires from spoiling it.
I think there are ways. It really feels to me like the left has left a lot of ground untapped in terms of our messaging.
There's a lot of leftist ideas that, when presented without an explicitly "Leftist" context, really appeal to right wing voters.
Like, when did unions become a political thing? How the fuck did we lose them on unions? And Jesus Christ, we're talking about the party of "rugged individualists", how are we not selling them on solar power?
"Still suckling on the teat of some oil baron? Damn son, I get all my power from God's beautiful sun and wind, and can't no one take it away from me."
"What's that you say, you gotta work sick because you're too pussy to tell your California elite CEO to go fuck himself? Sounds like you need a union son."
Like, am I fucking crazy here? How the hell did the American left lose the Midwest when there's so many ways to appeal to these people, if someone would just try to actually meet them where they are.
Fox news
How fucking stupid are people Jesus Christ.
You got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new west. You know… morons.
We just got the answer to that question yesterday.
You lost to garbage.
We'll just assume that question was rhetorical.
I don't wanna hear another damn word out of young, American leftists. They moralized, demanded, complained, and stayed home. Now shut the fuck up and enjoy the destruction of Gaza. Morons
Are you that stupid to think that 15 million non-voter were leftists?
Pew research allows that progressive are seven percent of the electorate and you actually believe that 15 million is all leftist?
Nah, there's millions of bog standard Democrats that didn't vote because 'reasons' here. Y'all put a quarter in your ass and played America.
Now do latinos and suburban women.
Singling out a single demographic for the target of your ire isn't helpful.
Ironically if she'd chosen Shapiro as a running mate then she'd have had a better chance of holding PA. However reports at the time suggested she didn't want to risk upsetting the left by choosing a Jewish running mate.
Showing just how gullible American voters are.
Trump got 2 million less votes than he did in 2020. I think this is more of a case where left-leaning people failed to show up in numbers that led for Biden's win in 2020.
Overall voter turnout dropped by something like 18 million. So yeah. The fact that Biden and the Democratic Party are obsessed with tooting their own horns while the lived experience of the entire fucking middle class has gotten measurably worse caused this. The election just underlines their failure to do fucking ANYTHING.
And yes, I know the GOP obstructs everything. But for fucks sake can we please try some malicious compliance at the very least? Or - and hear me out - just do shit anyways, make a difference, and fuck the rules. The GOP does that when they do fucked up things; refusing to do that in the interest of doing GOOD things that would actually HELP people is a self-defeating strategy. Stop bringing a deck of cards to a fucking gunfight. Jesus tapdancing christ.
Didn't Democrats raise a record amount of money this election cycle? And they were supposed to use it to get out the vote?
There is money pouring into these campaigns, and it doesn't make any difference at all. It's all just a corporate welfare project for local TV media in swing states.
Didn’t Democrats raise a record amount of money this election cycle? And they were supposed to use it to get out the vote?
Harris only had months of campaigning, while Trump had over a year. That alone put her at a massive disadvantage, since much of the vote is often decided (in people's minds) well before the elections.
But the reality is, as long as 50%+ are OK being in a cult run by an incoherent madman, they'll ignore the self-harm and keep voting the same way.
If the left not voting leads to Democrats losing, you'd think the party would try to win those votes. Instead they campaign like they don't need them. And well, I guess.. the campaign advisors actually don't need them, they're gonna get hired to run the next campaign regardless. And the fat-cat donors are gonna stay rich regardless. Both ready to steer the next election!
It's always "the left" that's causing candidates to win by not voting, it's never candidates failing to give them something to vote for. Or advisors and donors pushing the candidates towards positions that will cost them the election. It's always "the left".
But hey, she got the Cheney's vote! And look, my swing state family's as well. But Democratic candidates and policies need to go big, or they're gonna keep being sent home. People voted for Trump for the same reason they voted for Obama - they absolutely want change, and 25K for a mortgage down payment ain't it.
Thanks COVID. You took our family members, forced us to have to "save the economy" causing inflation and now gave us a dictator. The gift that keeps on giving.
You must be living in an alternate universe. Your comment makes no sense.
A universe where inflation caused by a monetary injection to "save the economy" that becomes the gripe most people have to vote for Trump is an alternate universe? The headline literally says people voted for trump over the economy. The economy sucks for us because of inflation, caused by our reaction to COVID and the effects it had on supply chains...
COVID is not responsible for Trump's win. The electorate is.
As the article is stating "the economy is the biggest reason" people vote for Trump. The economy is bad for normal folks because of inflation, which was high in part because of corporate greed but also because of the major cash injection to "save the economy" through COVID.
Our (necessary) reaction to COVID set the conditions for Trump to fan the flames of peoples gripes.
Should of rigged the election, then Kamala would be the Queen.