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[–] [email protected] 178 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

No, this is what we do. 51=17x3. 52=26x2. 53, however is a prime number so it can't be divided.

We make PR a state, Guam, and DC.

AND WE BECOME.... One nation, indivisible.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 week ago

You have . . . a point.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Squish the Dakotas together and make PR a state, we wouldn't even need a new flag.

[–] Mouselemming 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] Mouselemming 16 points 1 week ago (7 children)

No silly, we COMBINE some of the 18 low-population states so we can go back to 48! One nation 6x8, with a better balance in representation! Or 45 could be nice as well.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

overly positive elementary school teacher voice* "okay low pop states find your buddy." "to make it easier for some of you if your state starts with a cardinal direction congrats you've already got a preassigned merge buddy and new name!"... "ah no Kansas, 'Ar' is not a direction, you and Arkansas wont work you don't even share a border hun" "...unless" Kansouri-Oklasas

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why combine extant states? Just pull a colonial Europe and draw a whole new map over it! Nuts to "natural boundaries" or "cultural similarities", everyone on the east coast from DC to King's Bay is now part of the State of Midlantic.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Until Puerto Rico is a state, I believe they shouldn't have to pay taxes. No taxation without representation.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They are exempt from federal income tax.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

While a good start, they do still pay other kinds of federal taxes (without representation), such as payroll taxes

https://espaciosabiertos.org/facts-does-puerto-rico-really-not-pay-federal-taxes-a-common-misconception/

And paid $4 billion in federal taxes in 2021 https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/puerto-rico-us-territory-crisis#chapter-title-0-4

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

this is also why the license plates in DC have the slogan “taxation without representation”

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 week ago

God you can't even have colonies anymore, another victim of wokeness

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I'm not sure that more than 50% of Puerto Rico wants to be a state.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 week ago (3 children)

They vote on it rather frequently. They do at the moment but it does waffle a bit.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago (3 children)

But that would shift the election in favour of the Democrats...

Yes - if the GOP can't survive more proportional representation, they shouldn't.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Potentially. Puerto Rico is also a religious state.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Puerto Rico should be it's own country.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Personally, I think we should force the island to choose its fate. We can't keep the status quo going forever. The idea of a nation like the US maintaining a colony with millions of people on it is a historical anachronism. It was a mistake to ever create the colony in the first place, and it's a mistake to keep it going. We should force the Puerto Ricans to make a choice. A new binding referendum. Pass a statehood bill that grants statehood to PR based on the results of a final binding vote. And that referendum has two and only two choices on it - statehood or independence. They're either all the way in, or all the way out. The choice is theirs.

I know in principle that, from a self-determination perspective, that Puerto Ricans should have a full menu of choices available to it, including staying a territory. But it's high time for the US to get out of the colony business. US territory status should be reserved for holdings that are so sparsely populated that they would never possibly make a viable state. But Puerto Rico is just way too large to justify holding as a territory.

We need to solve this problem. And I think we should have a final binding referendum, one where statehood or independence will automatically happen based on the results of that referendum.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

We have tried to vote and indicate whatever desire we have for statehood or independence. Y'all (as in US Government, not citizens) just use the results to wipe your asses.

Slight edit: I'm Puerto Rican

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They can become a state if they want to. They have voted against it in the past.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Their most recent vote in 2020 results in favor of statehood (not by much). However, Congress has to make it happen, not Puerto Rico.

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[–] iAmTheTot 21 points 1 week ago (3 children)

My understanding is that many Puerto Ricans don't even want statehood.

[–] Furball 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

About 50-60% want statehood, it’s the majority opinion, but a lot of people like not having income taxes

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Just take statehood away from North Dakota and give it to PR so we can keep the number of stars and stripes.

[–] captain_aggravated 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Number of stripes isn't going to change; it'll stay at 13.

50 stars is boomer shit. Time for 51.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Merge north and south dakota

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

A better way to say is Puerto Rico has more US citizens than 18 US States. If the goal is to piss off maga that is.

This page from 2020 says 20

https://puertoricoreport.com/population-puerto-rico-exceeds-populations-21-states/

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I honestly don’t think this would ever get support. Puerto Rico is very republican last I checked so dems aren’t exactly incentivized to vote it in. And republicans don’t want it because that would be fair treatment to a minority so

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I’m more interested in PR having representation then how it affects my own opinions.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

Yeah I agree, I meant more the actual lawmakers aren’t terribly incentivized

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Irony of the situation that the same Republican Party hates Puerto Ricans so much. I hope PR folks understand that when repubes say migrants are rapists, druggists, and murderers they also mean you - even though you’re not migrants - MAGA doesn’t give a fuck to the fact that you’re citizens.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (4 children)

"No no no....he's talking about Haitians, those savages.

We Puerto Ricans are the exemption. We're special."

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I am surprised conservatives don’t want to add PR as a state, Republicans would definitely get more reps voting along religious lines in congress

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Kamala should seize on this and say she'd push for statehood, if not for anything other than to watch Republicans say they would oppose it.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 days ago

Dems don’t want it to have statehood either. It would make Puerto Rico less exploitable, and the donors don’t want that.

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