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I see the bad faith actors making a final push. (lemmy.world)

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[–] [email protected] 127 points 1 month ago (3 children)

A few more days. Please, just gotta hold off a week and a half. After that, I can shift gears from "Fuck's sake please just support the non-fascist candidate against the literal fascist" to "These are the problems in this fucking country and they need to be addressed, and fuck Harris if she doesn't"

Just spare us an immediate future of fascism. Buy yourselves, and ourselves, more time to work. Even if you think this is ONLY buying time, buy it. Because things are NOT going to be easier to organize under a fascist regime - and the idea that the more people suffer, the more they're inclined towards your, specific, political views, is just not borne out by reality.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 month ago (9 children)

Third parties have some valid ideas and I don’t oppose voting them in down ballot to create an alternative to the two main parties.

But voting for them as presidential candidates right now means that I’m effectively voting against my ideals.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Until third parties have a presence at the national level it’s stupid to vote for one for president.

If you think Democratic presidents don’t get anything done with a Republican Congress just wait until both sides of both houses refuse to work with a third party president.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is what I've been saying. Even if a third party somehow managed to win the Presidency, they still can't do anything if Congress doesn't play ball. And knowing Congress, they're not going to. There's zero base for a third party President to stand on because none have made the effort to win seats in the House and Senate.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

And that's not even taking into account the judges who get to rule on things, who have all been appointed by one of the two parties. Even if Congress works with them a judge can just throw it out.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

I do think it depends on where you live. In about half of states, your vote for president is meaningless. Mississippi isn't going blue and Massachusetts isn't going red. In those cases, voting third party has the chance to effect future federal election funding.

But yeah, if you're in a state with literally any chance at all of being a toss up, don't vote 3rd party.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Voting dems down ballot is just as important. Don't be a fool.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I’ve said my piece, you don’t have to agree.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I can’t wait to talk about this country’s shit healthcare again from November 6, 2024 thru April, 2028.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Amuuurikah! Fuck yeah!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Edit: I have no idea what this is from, but somehow a ginormous flag-painted truck pooping out another, still giant flag-painted SUV that then proceeds to make a mess and what looks like endangering a child in a desert town, possibly of middle eastern origin, seems VERY American to me. Though I apologize for the appalling lack of bacon and guns, which I will henceforth rectify with this actually real picture:

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That first GIF is from Team America: World Police, it's a Bush-era film from the guys who made South Park. It aged pretty badly in a lot of ways since it's lampooning the War on Terror, but it's still hilarious IMO. Worth a watch if you like the idea of South Park as an R-rated puppet movie.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Omg that sounds hilarious 😂

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

It's selection bias on their part, they'll point to the fall of the Tsar and say "see, see, revolution comes from oppression!", and ignore what happened to the communists in Germany, lol.

They really have a hard-on for violent revolution, when peaceful revolution may still be an option...

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 month ago

For anyone who honestly believes in third party stuff: try supporting ranked voting at the local and state level. Once we have more ranked voting at local and state levels, it will be easier to push that at the federal level, which is the best way to solve strategic voting problems in presidential elections.

Nobody would support ranked voting for presidential elections if that's the first time they hear about it. But if people use it already in local elections, and see that it works better, then extending it to presidential elections is a logic choice.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Ranked choice baybeeee!

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (11 children)

~~I’m not American~~

I’ve seen this meme shared going back to “3 months before the election”. When people have been protesting for way longer than that, and not only have they been ignored, but silenced, I’m not surprised when they turn to more drastic measures to be heard.

EDIT: well, this makes sense, it was you who posted the previous memes lol

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[–] Lucidlethargy 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lemmy.ml is all about this right now. The idiots... They claim to want things to lean more left, then they help the right with their narrative.

Ever since coming here (Lemmy) I've started to develop a solid bias against the far left. They are defeating their own goals when they do this shit.

For the record, I'm independent but I vote blue because the GOP is insane.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I wouldn’t call ml far left.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

if marxist-leninists aren't far left who is?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Anarchists and similar are actually left.

MLs ar largely authoritarian cultists who self-identify as followers of dead white bros from hundreds of years ago. They're not leftists. Many are right-wing "red fash".

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

They're all "tankies" to this crowd sadly.

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[–] Grandwolf319 3 points 1 month ago

That’s auth left.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

ngl, feels like holding in the worst fart. Can't wait to start complaining again!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Bruh. Jill Stein isn’t even on the ballot in my state. She’s got no chance.

Despite my earlier organizing, there are no independents on anything down ballot.

I live in a swing state so, sorry De la Cruz, I can’t vote for ya.

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