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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

Of course. On multiple counts.

[–] [email protected] 133 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The Taoiseach (Irish Prime Minister) Simon Harris

Not the Harris I had hoped was making this statement.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Also not especially surprising from an Irish Prime Minister since Ireland has taken a principled response against Israeli apartheid and now genocide for a very long time.

[–] MyEdgyAlt 38 points 1 week ago

Funny how countries that have experienced brutality call it when they see it.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It seems like an intentionally misleading title to get clicks.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

Have you noticed the photo? 🙄

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not really, especially when you take into account the source is the British Broadcast Company.

Not everything revolves around America.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Eh, as someone who lived a large part of my life in the UK, I and my friendgroup there would definitely read this as Kamala Harris. The BBC is obsessed with US politics it’s always plastered all over their front page.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm Canadian and didn't, particularly with the picture of the man as the image for the story.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Picture doesn’t show unless you click the article on my UI.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The Harris you're thinking of would say Israel has every right to kill women, children and American journalists unconditionally and that to argue there should be consequences is antisemitic.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

The Harris you're thinking of would say Israel has every right to kill women, children and American journalists unconditionally and that to argue there should be consequences is antisemitic.

Kamala Harris has to walk the political tightrope of not being accused of antisemitism in a nation that has decided speaking ill of Israel’s misdeeds is antisemitic.

She has very specifically not said Israel has every right to kill women, children, and American journalists. She has said that they have every right to defend themselves, which is of course a safe non-answer. It doesn’t condone genocide, which is by definition not self-defense, but it also doesn’t oppose Israel, which would likely be suicidal in a national election as bafflingly close as this one.

Ideally she would stand up for Palestine, but I think that, broadly speaking, Americans are ill-informed about what’s happening in Gaza. I’m guessing her team knows that if she were to speak out vehemently in opposition to what most people don’t realize is a genocide, it would likely lose her more support than it would gain her in key states like Pennsylvania. Yes, she’d get support from many Palestinian-Americans in Michigan, but that may also turn undecided voters (in an election like this one, “undecided voter” means “uninformed voter”) against her. And she desperately needs those undecided voters, because the electoral college means she has an inherent disadvantage in this election.

She and her strategists are banking on people opposed to Israel’s genocide being smart enough to know that Donald Trump would be even worse, and to understand that political realities are complex in a way that is often very distasteful.

We can be disappointed that she isn’t decrying the actions of Israel, but to pretend that Harris is in full-throated support of genocide is disingenuous.

As much as we would like it to be, the world is not simple.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago

Seems like the title needs an edit here.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

For many decades...