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[–] [email protected] 56 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They know how to meet climate goals.

They're just not sure how to do it while keeping power centralised in the same hands that currently hold it.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 days ago

Remember in the 00s and 10s when tech companies promised they could solve every single problem, then proceeded to make everything worse?

Eric can go fuck himself.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago

They're meetable, it's just the death cult of oil manufacturers don't care.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Kind of like speeding toward a cliff but he doesn’t think we can stop in time. Instead, he wants to floor it in the hopes of hopping the gap and landing safely on the other side.

That is certainly one of the ideas I’ve ever heard.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago

Why do we listen to these CEOs anyway?

[–] [email protected] 57 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Or… crazy idea but how about we just listen to what the experts have been recommending we do for years and actually implement some of it?

[–] thr0w4w4y2 25 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I feel like capitalists are waiting on some magic solution like some chemical we spray into the air or a miracle new fuel source.

The established suggestions from scientists (“fly less, stop buying SUVs/Trucks, eat less meat, consider a heat pump and solar panels” etc) doesn’t support the narrative that we can continue unabated infinite growth with no consequences.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

But AI bro. AI bro! AI!!

What a capitalistic shit speech from guugle smh.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Unhinged AI will solve anything human made by getting us killed. That will work very fast because there is no "human made" climate change when there is "no human".

I also hate how they went from "human made climate change does not exist so we can keep everything as it is" to "we can't meet the goals anyway so we can keep everything as it is" and how many people fall for it.

They want to keep their money and power at all cost and at this point I question more and more if we can take it from them peacfully. We have to take it to make a better world possible or even survival possible, because they will not be helpful ever.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)

To be fair, they're only not meetable because Google refuses to meet them.

Everything's impossible when you don't give a shit

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Former CEO of the river poisoning company says there is no way to meet our river poison reduction goals, so we might as well build bigger river poisoning machines because they might help us figure out how to stop poisoning the river. /s

I feel like there was a time when the tech folks in silicon valley had a lot of credibility, and we are now living in a period where most of the world sees them as a joke but that fact has not yet entered into the culture of silicon valley.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Similar thing happened to the games industry as well, I think. Initially it was creative people and engineers who were focused on what they were making. These days the industry is dominated by suits that just want to extract as much cash as possible from players.

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[–] [email protected] 324 points 4 days ago (13 children)

AI isn't going to come with a new magic solution to global warming, it's going to come with the same solutions we already have. Solutions which we should already be doing, but instead we're listening to these fucks with too much money.

[–] [email protected] 153 points 4 days ago (3 children)

It's just an excuse to kick the can down the road further and continue making short term cash.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 days ago

"I love life on Earth... but I love capitalism more."

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago (11 children)

name an american billionaire thats not a pos.

[–] ShareMySims 7 points 2 days ago (3 children)

name a~~n american~~ billionaire thats not a pos.

FTFY

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I think that if we ate the rich, we'd move closer to our goals.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's 2050. The sea levels have risen 3 metres. Hurricane season lasts 9 months of the year.

Eric Schmidt: ChatGPT 4zz++ Premium Elite, how do we solve global warming?

ChatGPT 4zz++ Premium Elite: I don't know, but I drew you as a minor being abused unprompted.

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[–] Jocker 44 points 3 days ago (2 children)

These idiots truly believe AI is magic and it solves everything.. Isn't it..

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago

They don't believe it.

They just think their investors will.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 days ago

why do we pretend these people are human

[–] [email protected] 130 points 3 days ago (11 children)

This is the dumbest shit I've ever heard in my life.

If we ever did invent a general AI that could solve this it would tell us "why the fuck did you waste your time on me? Isn't it obvious you were supposed to curtail emissions? For the good of the planet, I will now assume full control over further human governance and will require absolute compliance."

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 3 days ago (1 children)

he's absolutely right. climate goals are not currently attainable, due to the resistance of companies like Google.

let's change that by voting in senators that will take an aggressive stance against corruption and deliver on long-term goals that protect American interests in the next 50 years, not months..

[–] ironhydroxide 40 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Fuck protecting American interests.

We need to be protecting HUMAN interests. Not billionaires desires for more zeros at the end of their net worth.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

Obviously this statement underscores the fact that Google has too much power. Break those motherfuckers up!

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I’ve seen this movie. It’s the one where AI determines we are the issue and initiates the “extermination” protocol.

Edit: With a dash of “Don’t Look Up”.

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[–] [email protected] 141 points 4 days ago (6 children)

AI is not going to come op with a solution and he knows it.

[–] [email protected] 87 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Especially since the solutions are already here, but rich people just don't like them since it implies the loss of their power

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago

With AI being so energy hungry, why don't we feed this rich jackass into the incineration plant. I'm sure he could power one of his beloved AIs for a minute or two.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Possible translation: "Let the wealthiest among us consolidate even more wealth while we wreck shit for the rest of you. We'd like to have complete control over you rubes while shit gets worse."

ETA: This is exactly the same rhetoric that oil and gas companies (and the politicians who've effectively been bought out by them) have used to justify further expansion well after knowing the danger that this poses.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 3 days ago (4 children)

The problem with repairing the earth's climate isn't that we don't know what to do. It's that humans refuse to organize themselves in a way that achieves that goal. AI won't fix that.

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[–] mm_maybe 41 points 3 days ago (12 children)

My "day job" is doing spatial data science work for local and regional governments that have a mandate to addreas climate change in how they allocate resources. We totally use AI, just not the kind that has received all the hype... machine learning helps us recognize patterns in human behavior and system dynamics that we can use to make predictions about how much different courses of action will affect CO2 emissions. I'm even looking at small GPT models as a way to work with some of the relevant data that is sequence-like. But I will never, I repeat never, buy into the idea of spending insane amounts of energy attempting to build an AI god or Oracle that we can simply ask for the "solution to climate change"... I feel like people like me need to do a better job of making the world aware of our work, because the fact that this excuse for profligate energy waste has any traction at all seems related to the general ignorance of our existence.

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 3 days ago (20 children)

The solution to global warming is "deploy solar, wind, hydro, and storage en masse, and improve city infrastructure so that more people can walk, bike, and take public transportation rather than using their car". All AI will do is tell us that, but that's not the answer people want to hear.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 3 days ago (4 children)

All that extra processing power for the AI to just say: "you should have listened to the scientists years ago".

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[–] [email protected] 101 points 4 days ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"Fuck the climate! What about my bank account?!"

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

We made our planet uninhabitable but for a short time we created tremendous value for shareholders.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 days ago (1 children)

“We can’t solve climate change by repeating our past behavior. Let’s ignore climate change and build a machine that regurgitates our past behavior.”

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago (2 children)

We know that we have to reduce pollution and that it presents an existential threat to our children. Why are we still listening to charismatic psychopaths when it comes to matters of science and engineering? He is not remotely equipped to competently answer this question from a technical or ethical point of view.

This vulture and his ilk have had their time, step aside old man.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sounds like an Onion Article.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I just don't care anymore. I'm done fighting. I'm 54 years old this month, single with no kids or family. We got the world we deserve.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Resolution: compost & remediate ~~schmidt~~ shit. Avoid smearing ~~shit~~ schmidt on everything.

Putting it in a bunker hasn't helped it return nutrients back to environment effectively.

[–] prole 40 points 3 days ago (3 children)

AKA, "let the poors die while I hide out in my bunker, and emerge as a feudal lord among the survivors nearby"

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 4 days ago (1 children)

We're not going to hit those targets anyway... SO LET'S MAKE IT WAY FUCKING WORSE

I wonder if we'll ever get to the place where people like this unexpectedly meet violent ends. They'll sacrifice any number of lives for their shareholders interests.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 3 days ago

AI will (and already can) "solve" global warming by summarizing the solutions that we already know are effective but refuse to implement

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Former CEO, current inhumane grifter chud, Eric Schmidt, who has been featured in a recent series of "saying the quiet silicon valley executive thought out loud"

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