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'Pieces falling into place': Analyst sees Harris breaking 'doom loop' as election nears (www.rawstory.com)

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 19 hours ago

Doesn't matter, go fucking vote. Vote like your life depends on it; depending on your demographic that could very well not be hyperbole. Vote like it's a terrifyingly close election, because despite all the polls and the analysts, this election is still going to come down to razor thin margins. It is VERY hard to compete with the sheer fanaticism of Trump's base; a large number of them literally think he's the Messiah or that Harris is the antichrist so they feel justified in all sorts of batshit actions.

[–] [email protected] 106 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Wild, they even got Doom to run on a political news cycles. It really does run on everything huh?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Fun fact, Doom was running back when Margaret Thatcher was in politics.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

🤔 can Thatcher's grave run Doom?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

There is only one way to find out.

[–] vaultdweller013 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I do not like this fact, can we commit Damnatio memoriae on Margaret Thatcher.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Damnatio memoriae

Yes, very much so.

[–] jaemo 3 points 10 hours ago

I got it to run on the cube of butter in my kitchen once. Oh sure, it works, but the performance wasn't as smooth as the medium might suggest and the waffles were terrible.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 23 hours ago

Even runs at a pretty good framerate people-who-take-every-outlier-poll-as-gospel

[–] [email protected] 53 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Gosh, I really hope so. Too much is on the line.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 23 hours ago

We can do more than just hope, we can help make it happen

Find how to register to vote for where you are

Find opportunities to volunteer for dems around you and online

Write letters to voters in swing states or in competitive downballot races

[–] [email protected] 15 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Me too. At this point, I'll believe it when I see it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

even then it’s gonna get ugly.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm not hopeful that she'll break the doom loop.

If a brown man created the doom loop, brown woman isn't going to stop it.

I certainly welcome her being in office for 8 years, but I fear what the other side will cook up in the meantime.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

How did Obama, I'm assuming, create the doom loop?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

By being brown.

Lots of people did not like that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago

To people I know well enough to know they'll understsnd my meaning I say America was not ready for a black president and the current political climate and Trump is the proof of that. Its shameful really but it's not untrue. Maybe the shock to the systen has taught enough of us to be better, but maybe thats me huffing copium.

[+] [email protected] -18 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

Won't make a difference. SCOTUS will hand the presidency to Trump regardless of outcome.

Edit: Since when has this SCOTUS ever shied from doing something it "can't"? Roe v. Wade. Presidents are kings. Church as state. Vote anyway, I am, but they're trying a second coup and they might well succeed this time. You can all apologise for not listening after they do it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

"apologize for not listening" in your view, what difference does it make whether we listen or not, and why should we apologize? As you said, "won't make a difference" right?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 11 hours ago

Because I'm right, and there are downvotes. People use the downvote button to disagree, so they are wrong, because what I said is a fact 🤷‍♀️

There is a massive, concerted effort by the right wing to take over or government, and nobody seems to care enough to stop them, so they're probably going to pull it off this time.

And I'll want an apology - when I'm right and not before - because I've had a really hard day. I answer questions all day, and get told I don't know what I'm talking about when I do, and then I have to explain why I'm right every single time. I always get told I don't know what I'm talking about, and then I turn out to be right.

I was looking for a couple of events, and one of them was the court making Trump above the law. I didn't think there was any way that could work, because they'd have to ignore the Constitution. But here we are, so all bets are off and I don't have any hope the good guys will win anymore.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

SCOTUS can't overrule an election outcome unless there is contention and proof. Won't happen. Her numbers are too good, and that's taking into account that polls only reach old people.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

SCOTUS can't overrule an election outcome unless there is contention and proof

They can do whatever the fuck a majority of them wants. That's why Mitch McConnell considered stacking the courts much more important to his legacy than electoral success.

The way the broken system works, they have the final say on ANYTHING and can only be overruled by the by now impossible constitutional amendment process.

No matter how nonsensical or blatantly corrupt their reasoning, their judgment is effectively final.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

If SC tries to force an illegitimate Trump presidency down our throats there will be hell to pay. Biden might also need to use some of his newly-acquired presidential immunity superpowers and ship the SC to Antarctica to do science research for the rest of their tenure.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

If SC tries to force an illegitimate Trump presidency down our throats there will be hell to pay

There should be but there won't. Just like when they forced an illegitimate Bush president down people's throats in 2000 and the powerful ignored the millions decrying THAT injustice.

Biden might also need to use some of his newly-acquired presidential immunity superpowers and ship the SC to Antarctica to do science research for the rest of their tenure.

Even if he'd ever do such a thing (or indeed ANYTHING that violates the rules and norms that Neoliberals consider much more important than any outcomes of following or breaking them), they made sure that what constitutes "official acts" is up to the SCOTUS themselves, thus effectively making any executive overreach by Biden just as illegal as before and any by Trump the law of the land.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

SC rulings from Antarctica aren't gonna hold much more weight.

This isn't Bush vs. Gore, this would be an insurrection against democracy and that will be plain to see to the majority of Americans.

In any case, just fucking vote folks.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

This isn't Bush vs. Gore, this would be an insurrection against democracy

As was Bush v. Gore.

that will be plain to see to the majority of Americans.

As was Bush v. Gore.

You're simultaneously underestimating the establishment's ability to wag the dog and overestimating how willing the Dem leadership are to fight against great injustices, especially ones that are technically within the obsolete guidelines established in the 1700s.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 hours ago

It wasn't an insurrection. The sentiment was "whatever, there's always the next election". And eventually we voted Obama in. That's how the resilience of democracy is supposed to work. A shit hand one election doesn't doom the country for eternity because when people get sick enough of it they can change things and vote differently. That was clearly Gore's sentiment as well when he conceded to keep the country moving.

That sentiment no longer exists. This is different. Conceding is not some patriotic sacrifice to keep the country moving. It is the end of democracy and there is no coming back.

Neither of us really know how things will manifest, but this is not 24 years ago, the stakes are higher and the situation is far different.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Bush v. Gore. Contention, no proof. Since when has this SCOTUS ever shied from doing something it "can't"? Roe v. Wade. Presidents are kings.

Sorry bud, it's not looking good, and believe you me will I be voting. But it's not even a question that they're trying coup 2.0.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Hanging Chad in Florida is different than election deniers trying to not certify elections. Won't happen.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 22 hours ago

Uh-huh. Ignore everything else that's happened just this year, then. Ignore all the obvious preparations they've been making, how they've stacked the courts. It's gonna work out great.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 day ago

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