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A national abortion ban—or whatever they want to call it—is more than a remote possibility.

JD Vance outright lied about his calls for a national abortion ban during Tuesday night’s vice-presidential debate, falsely declaring he “never supported a national ban.” That is categorically untrue and yet another reason why no one should believe him or Donald Trump when they make promises about reproductive rights, which they will absolutely shred given the opportunity.

But, first, a quick fact-check regarding Vance’s debate claim. In 2022, while running for Senate in Ohio, Vance said on a podcast, “I certainly would like abortion to be illegal nationally.” During that same campaign, he stated on his website for all the world to see that he was “100 percent pro-life” and that he was in favor of “eliminating abortion.” In fact, those words were on Vance’s website until July of this year, when Trump announced the senator as his running mate.


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[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Before the 2016 election Trump had a civil trial over allegations that 'Trump University' was nothing more than a scam to fleece the gullible out of their money.

Trump made a settlement, which basically admitted that he'd ripped off the average citizen.

I brought this up to a MAGoo.

Their take was that the students deserved to be robbed because they hadn't read the terms and conditions.

Trump's people know he's a liar. They just think he won't lie to them.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Admittedly, I never read the terms and conditions for the university I attended..

Maybe that’s on me, but I seriously doubt there were any. That’s not really a normal thing an institute of higher learning would have, afaik..

What a bizarre contortion.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

Similar story form before the 2016 election.

MAGoo woman goes on The View TV show to defend Donnie's 'pussy grabber' tape.

One of the other panelists keeps repeating the word 'pussy' over and over again.

Trump's lady demands that the other woman stop using that offensive term.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No, there definitely were. They were probably more related to conduct on campus, grading, and how to handle issues with professors, though.

Also, you didn't really need to read the terms and conditions to know Trump University was a scam; a quick Google would suffice

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Don’t have to google. It’s in the name. Anything with the trump name attached to it is garbage or a scam and probably both.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Well that too, but anyone enrolling in something called Trump University clearly lived under a rock, and wouldn't know that, or they wouldn't have even gotten that far.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Or they believed what they saw on TV. The Apprentice really fucked this country and a lot of idiots along the way.

[–] Huckledebuck 44 points 2 months ago

“If I have to create stories so that the American media actually has to pay attention to the suffering of American people, then that’s what I’m going to do,”

  • Jack Dick Vance, a U.S. Senator representing Ohio.
[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago

Yes, JD Vance lied about abortion, and no, you shouldn’t trust anything he or Donald Trump says.

Title fix :)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, JD Vance lied about abortion, and no, you shouldn’t trust anything he or Donald Trump says ~~about reproductive rights~~

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Best fify yet.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They are so concerned about women LOL.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

They are: they're concerned that women might have their own ideas and not submit to a man's control.

[–] agamemnonymous 7 points 2 months ago

The man who said to "say anything, make up anything" is being dishonest about policy positions? Say it ain't so

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

at this point can anyone really believe any repuglican on any subject? their entire modus is to gain and hold power and damn the truth if it gets in the way. flawed is most polite way of saying they are literally batshit insane.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

I mean, fucking duh. Who is on the fence about this? He has sycophants that wanna knob gobble him, and then there are normal people that don’t believe a fucking word.