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[–] [email protected] 136 points 1 month ago (2 children)

For the record, the study they're likely citing was the one that tested less than 15 kids, 3 or more of which did NOT have autism, and the then-doctor permanently crippled one of them in the process of testing for the digestive-neural autism link

(The entire study exists because he wanted to discredit a vaccine to sell his own)

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ah, following in Wakefield's steps. Good to see the grifters and charlatans don't change, but it is sad that people keep falling for it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They're likely citing Wakefield, he's been having a resurgence in US media

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago (2 children)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10017995/

There have been 5 studies that all seem to show a positive link.

But way way more reseach is needed.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Gut disorders are correlated with autism

Autism is not correlated with gut disorder

That is both the research and the current scientific consensus

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

Also remember that correlation isn't causation. Trust me, every autistic person in the West has heard all about how we just need to adjust our gut biome and suddenly we won't be autistic, or we just need to go vegan, or any of a thousand other wonder cures. These cures have been touted since the 1900s, and the people they "work" on are generally agreed to just have learnt to mask better because almost every "treatment", no matter how benign, is horrible to deal with.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The research shows a decrease in symptoms after the procedure and nothing more or less.

It doesn't say anything about gut disorder or why they could be linked.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Positive link? Does that mean more autism symptoms?

[–] [email protected] 118 points 1 month ago (5 children)

What does a reduction in Autism “symptoms” even mean - We uninstall Arch?

[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, you just stop telling everyone else about it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"I un-installed Arch, btw"

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

Maybe more susceptibility to advertisement?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Uninstall Gentoo, duh

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Water no longer feels as splish-splashy

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Can confirm. Water now feels ouch-bangey, with an occasional splat-sticky mixed in.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

It could fix certain GI issues, which either autistic people are more sensitive to or are unable to communicate.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Once again, the science piles up behind my "we're just LLMs running on the mecha suit controlled by bacteria" theory

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Well neural networks (the construct LLMs use) is modelled on how neurons process information. Just in incredibly simplified form.

And I'm pretty sure most scientists agree that humans are actually a colony of many different species given how we rely on bacteria to live.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Oh, the metaphor goes further. We're not the pilot of the suit, we're not the hardware, we're not the OS of the suit, we're the AI assistant

We speak for it with the other AIs, we get called up to handle things we don't have learned behaviors for, we analyze and provide feedback - we give advice and it feels like we're making decisions, but we're not

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

We are literally 10 times more bacteria than human cells in the human body.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

"We." Are you referring to people, or is that the bacteria self-identifying as plural?

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I think OOP might be full of shit

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I agree, functional programming is the future

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 3 points 1 month ago

Too bad I only do nonfunctional programming.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

This guy Fortrans

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 month ago (2 children)

FYI fecal transplants are a thing and they address unhealthy microbiomes in the body. Someone else's shit could literally save your life from a c diff infection.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Trouble is that we don't know enough about it. Especially how to find a good donor.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Sorry I'm late for work, boss. I made a spontaneous intrabraccael fecal donation on the way to work.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

So we’re just abandoning the time tested “if it’s brown, send it down” protocol?

I mean… if we can’t trust that brown poop is good poop anymore, which way is up?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

For people with IBD or IBS, they're practically the holy grail, if the initial reports are to be believed.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Research like this gives me hope for people like my severely autistic son who has been missing development milestone after development milestone so a fear of mine is that he might eventually have to live in a group home once he's strong enough to overpower us. If a treatment like this can manage symptoms enough to allow him to live independently that would be literally life changing

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's for gut issues like crohns not anything to do with emotional regulation or communication.

Group homes are as good as their staff, interview everyone there. Visit him often. Living independently is not always for the best.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Ehhh I should've figured info from a source like this would be woefully misrepresented

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

This shit is retarded

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've been reading research on the gut micro biome for years and all this stuff related to it's effects on the brain and overall health. We joke, but I legit don't think we're too far from pro and pre biotic enemas becoming a regular treatment

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

grab a celebrity and a venture capitalist, and spin it up!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Ooh, I bet Gwyneth Paltrow would be into it!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I dream of making millions by selling Belle Delphine home fecal transplant kits.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Forever....

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hmmm, I thought it was a poop knife.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I thought it was a cum sock.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Maybe it’s Maybelline

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

*do not try this at home

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I am hella indifferent to the idea of a poop sock.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

and made you eat it, as a cure

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