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[–] [email protected] 161 points 1 month ago (2 children)

sometimes the only winning move is not to play

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 month ago

Yep, stop moderating and move platforms. Easy-peasy

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

fuckin matthew brodderick ovah hereeeeee

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[–] [email protected] 111 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Sounds like something you would do if you were about to remove a very popular feature like old reddit in the coming months.

[–] AlecSadler 15 points 1 month ago

Yeah... something big must be coming and they're gearing up for it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Old.reddit is definitely on the chopping block and this is the precursor

It provides limited API functionality still and it avoids the shit ad filled new reddit page

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[–] [email protected] 98 points 1 month ago (1 children)

“communities should honor the expectations they set”

Oh, really?

[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Too bad Reddit executives don't feel that way about their own website.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

pretty sure thats what they meant

[–] [email protected] 89 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The only site wide protest that counts is not to use it

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's what I did and I haven't missed it

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I miss it. It has subs for everything: niche hobbies, small video games, IRL games, etc.

Still not worth going back.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Same. This is why I hope Reddit continues to get worse. I want another exodus, and I want my niche communities back...

Still not going back tho.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

I mean, sure, sometimes it's unavoidable as a resource because it contains years of info but I don't really miss the social aspects of it at all. As reddit slowly has become worse and worse I've just realised social media isn't really that useful to me. I do hang out on Lemmy and can't say that I don't enjoy it but I don't keep up actively on any social platform anymore.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (6 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

They've done a lot to neuter that.

Not sure on the technicals but lots of rate limiting to prevent PDS from being able to get everything and outright shenanigans to make posts not appear in the old view which also prevents PDS from deleting them. Not to mention un-deleting comments after a while (even if you use the option to edit before deleting).

So run it early and run it often. And then just delete the account for the rest.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

A dev here. Not a reddit dev, but a dev. Deleting thing online doesn't necessarily mean real deletion of the content. For instance, every post and comment is a row of a "big notebook" (a table on a database) and every row is split by columns for specific data: who's the author, where it was posted (which community), what's the content and, sometimes, a yes/no column called "is it deleted?". When you delete such post, you are writing a "yes" inside that column, without actually replacing the content. It's an oversimplified explanation of how platforms register posts, sometimes there's a "version" table (think of it as multiple notebooks keeping track of different things simultaneously) that will keep the different versions of an edited post/comment, so they will remain intact inside such table.

Tl;dr: once on the internet, always on the internet (unfortunately). Especially if we're dealing with a corporation that profits over user's data. Rare cases where a thing on the internet finds real oblivion.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Some users have seen their deleted content return later. So yes you should try but don't assume it will be permanent

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

Can confirm! I’ve run that exact utility multiple times. Each time it finds a few posts that were restored.

But it’s like 99.5% effective in deleting posts. So it’s better than nothing.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They already have your comments. Deleting your comments only harms future users who are looking for whatever information you shared.

So hopefully if you deleted any informative comments you moved them elsewhere, right?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Might be better to replace old posts with links to the fediverse. Or since those are probably filtered "Google search 'Reddit alternatives' and look for the mouse..." or some shit like that.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 month ago

Enshitificication of Reddit continues!

The beatings will continue until community morale increases... and of course: profits.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_ 56 points 1 month ago

Every day the Fediverse just gets that much better than r*ddit

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Fuck /u/Spez

Sorry; the above is mandatory these days when talking about enshittified reddit.

I'd say it very strongly looks like Spez is doing exactly what it looks like. I can attest from my days as a meta-subreddit-mod and reddit mod that this behavior tracks exactly with any time Spez thinks he's planning an unpopular change; they pucker up hard and start bracing things they think will be affected.

Probably, it is Old.Reddit; because it likely does not add to their revenue. Old.reddit interface was not designed with advertising in mind and it is purely functional first only.

Of course; by editing or removing old.reddit interfaces; they will be lobotomizing their moderation teams. The new reddit interface provides far less control and granular information; making it difficult at times to moderate without falling back to the old.reddit interface.

Undoubtedly they will likely also try to freeze, disable, or cripple AutoModerator /config/ pages, if they haven't already, or revert them as well when this new enshittification masquerading as a "small positive change" drops. It's hard to say.

Instead of recognizing their moderators as major stakeholders who have chosen to build their communities on reddit; they have chosen violence, and are treating them like enslaved serfs. Hmm...I wonder if that means they could possibly be breaking modern slavery laws... Until Next Time!

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Fuck /u/Spez

Leave reddit now.

<3 Melody.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I wonder what they are planning that they think will piss everyone off.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago

Don’t use Reddit unless you lick boots

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The funny thing is this will do absolutely nothing to prevent a sitewide protest. There are so many ways for mods to effectively destroy a subreddit or redirect it while remaining public.

In fact, and this is the important blindness that Reddit continues to have, the mods usually need to work hard daily just to keep a sub usable. Reddit is so dismissive of that effort and so brazenly presumes upon their volunteer labor that they seem to think subs just continue on sheer momentum, if only they could stop mods from sabotaging them.

Mod posts every day pointing to a new community at Lemmy or elsewhere, stopping using bot removal tools, stopping troll culling, marking NSFW, etc will do the job.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There are so many ways for mods to effectively destroy a subreddit or redirect it while remaining public.

custom subreddit CSS: black text on black background

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They'll scrap old.reddit.com to avoid that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

subreddit CSS doesn't work on new reddit? lol I had no idea

but if they scrap old.reddit then I see a nice big wave of new Lemmy users coming, and we're much more ready for it this time

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

Well they don’t want to hurt the feelings of the nazis they protect. Keep reminding them that 400 thousand Americans died in WW2 to give us the right to punch nazis in the face.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

bots are gonna be very disappointed

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I wonder how it’s going for Reddit? I expect they are still huge.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

dunno, for 16 months now, the only time I went there was after a google search and the answer was in a reddit thread... There is 15+ years of answers to various obscur topics and all, "unfortunately"

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They're starting to get stale though. Sometimes yes, there will be a 15+ years old thread that's still relevant, but there will also be so many cases that the latest post is 2+ years old and no longer applicable or outdated.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The biggest problem they have I think is that it's all bots, everywhere

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

It’s surely beyond 50% at this point.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

nothing else, you are already winning

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

They could just setup auto moderator rules to bury all new posts

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

I've already torched my entire comment history there. Fuck reddit.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Adding insult to injury, Reddit recently struck gold by licensing its content to train AI models.

Oh, that'll be fun, considering how much of the content on Reddit is simply bots making reposts.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

I've said it before, and I will say it again, and again, and again and again.

Good riddance, Reddit.

GOOD riddance, Reddit.

Good RIDDANCE, Reddit.

Good riddance, REDDIT.

GOOD RIDDANCE, REDDIT.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I ditched Reddit when Reddit suspended all my clone on same phone. I make clone for privacy issues.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

No it doesn't, just stop using reddit.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

People still go there? They should stop.

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