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It's a real shame that Putin's stupid and failed road trip is impeding a country with a long and decorated history in ~~partical~~ particle physics from contributing to the scientific community.
Russians please don't lie down and accept this, get that twat thrown out of the top floor of the Kremlin.
Not downplaying, but to help your spelling, it's particle in this situation.
Practical accelerator
Particles was the Greek god of very small things.
Thanks for spotting the typo, even I as an engineer and technical writer runs afoul of autocorrect π
even I ... runs afoul
Arr, the HMS Autocorrect be after ye!
Oh ducking hell, not again!
So Russian scientists now get excluded from EU work, but Tennis players are still OK.
It's insane that Russians can come here to earn money, while waging war against Europe at the same time.
That goes for any branch, be it entrepreneurs, scientists or art, it doesn't matter, they should not be able to make money here. That should be a very obvious part of our embargo against Russia.
It seems like tennis players aren't really the priority when protecting scientific data, or potential breakthroughs.
You are completely ignoring the essence of my argument., they make money, it creates prestige and it normalizes working with Russia.
All these Russians need to be thrown out 2 years ago.
They're coming after our balls!
Depriving Russia of nuclear scientists, or capable people in general, might well be worth whatever wages they brought home.
If you want to bring the inter-european war into it I'm not sure if we can afford to be unpragmatic about this. By all accounts letting Russia bleed manpower in exchange for some small wages is well worth it. If you want to deprive them of money you really need to strike at their ability to export gas and oil at inflated prices. Advancing knowledge about fusion aids that goal, though the effects are likely (hopefully?) too late to matter.
"these measures concern the relationship between CERN and Russian and Belarusian institutes and do not affect the relationship with scientists of Russian nationality affiliated with other institutes."
So that would be similar to the tennis players, no?
How to turn your country into North Korea, 101.
As well they should. Russia and Belarus should never be allowed to normalize this, and that should include ostracization in literally every aspect of their existence. You want to launch genocidal, imperialist invasions, run sham elections for a fascist oligarch, repress your citizens, blatantly kill political rivals day in and day out including outside of your own territory, sell arms to Myanmar's military, buddy up with North Korea and the Syrian government, send mercenaries to Africa to make things even worse there, cause ecological disasters in service of your illegal invasions, outlaw the expression of sexual and gender minorities, threaten war so flippantly that all of your western neighbors feel the need to join a defensive pact, interfere heavily in foreign elections to put fascists into power, and otherwise be one of the biggest, most backward shitholes on the planet? Then we'll treat you as such.
Ostracize countries, welcome geople who flee them. Instead, you only piss off people who flee them and trade with countries.