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[–] [email protected] 141 points 1 month ago (3 children)

So.... a convention every 4 years?

[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ineffective policies for the poor's that has a negligible effect while giant corporations make billions and exacerbate the problem?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

Sounds same as always. Maybe they'll do it now with a sense of urgency?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

"We should do something about this" - COPXX

[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I... does the UN think they're handling climate change well and promptly?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

i mean the global un is pretty good on it; it's just that the larger world powers (especially the us every time they have a conservative who goes backward on it) tend to drag their feet on it

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

I mean I don't think it's the UN's fault they can't get shit done about climate change, but I still wouldn't use it as a model

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Also China doesn't want to fix their shit. So they'll always be a problem.

[–] zaph 70 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So ignore it until it kills us?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Haha yeah, I know right cries

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 month ago

Sooo high urgency with zero consequence for missing targets?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago

So do nothing until it's too late? got it....

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

« creating an AI fund to back projects in these [poorer] nations, establishing AI standards and data-sharing systems, and creating resources such as training to help nations with AI governance. »

So basically burn money and energy on some hallucinating algorithm should be as important as investing in green energy and reducing CO2 levels. That makes sense. Like, yeah, totally onboard. What could go wrong?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

those ai projects will be countering the climate change projects! government at its usual

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago

I'd like to ignore it until it goes away too, but I don't think that's an effective strategy for either issue.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

Given the amount of electricity training and running all these LLMs requires, they might, like cryptocurrency, become drivers of climate change as they cause polluting generators to be built or unmothballed.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So, do nothing for 40 years while it gets progressively worse and allow countries to sign useless feel good things like the Paris Agreement?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Each one of these "initiatives" is just another 20 year delay in policy shift.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

So none at all...

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

confused. so nothing will happen, a lot of talk and EU makes a law thats only applied locally if memberstates agree?!?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

Bevause they are doing something for the climate?

Ohh okay, so the AI is free to prosper 😁

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

"AI" is a scam that's contributing to planetary destruction. But it's nowhere near a problem on the same scale. This kind of political theater only fuels the "AI" BS.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

So just chill?

[–] JamesStallion 8 points 1 month ago

IE regulatory capture and soothing bullshit?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

So... do nothing about it?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

But, let me guess, the billionaires don’t want them to.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Problem resolved itself.. ChatGPT is down.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

All this AI doomer talk is pointless. AI isn't the problem, humans are.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Capitalism is the problem. Humans use language, learn and can change behaviour over time. We’re not pre-programmed automatons. “Humans are the problem” is doomer talk.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago

Culture, which can change.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago

I agree. It's great to have machines do the work we don't want to do so we can do other things with our lives.

We just need to get over this mentality that those who have more deserve more and those who have less deserve less.

[–] spyd3r 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And I want to treat the UN like my weekly garbage, and have it hauled away and buried.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, it was so much better when there was a war in Europe every 10 years. Let's go back to that.

[–] spyd3r 1 points 1 month ago

You can thank NATO and the USA's military for lack of war in Europe, the UN is a joke.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

AI: “Put glue in your pizza.” UN: “Ow no! It’s sentient.”

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Ugh, my issue is AI is a pandas box, we already opened it. Now it’s an argument of regulate technology and banning people from doing certain things on their own devices like running foss LLMs, like if we do that we can also allow bans of end to end encryption

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, but those pandas sure are cute.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

But then they got into that damn box, and now we're doomed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

my issue is AI is a pandas box, we already opened it.

The big difference is that there is no "AI" box, it's never been opened, and nothing has happened except wasting energy and foolish money.

[–] otp 2 points 1 month ago

Upvoted for "Panda's box"...lmao!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

It's Pandoras box.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

AI doesn't even exist yet. We can't even stop a catastrophe we haven't created yet.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Here's the issue I have with your position... AI is such a generic term it's difficult to have a fulfilling conversation using it but in my field a form of AI like machine learning is going to eliminate an entire sector of manufacturing... Boutique precision machined components have been thought as an impenetrable wall against AI but it's basically the same lackluster defense used not long ago about Generative images couldn't produce hands properly... It's not a matter of if but when.

Imo, the catastrophe happens when a successful AI scales. Or perhaps rather how suddenly a successful AI model will bury the existing system into irrelevancy. Boeing and most aerospace manufacturers have a machinist union but none of that will protect against a future where people are no longer necessary.

I don't think it's wrong to have AI eliminate jobs but it shouldn't come without warning. I think it's rather forward looking to be monitoring ongoing AI projects and establish contingencies for folks who will become displaced by it's rapid spread.