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[–] [email protected] 142 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I worked with someone who did this. It was the HR person. She just didn't show up one day, didn't answer her phone or door. For a solid week. After a wellness check by the police, it was revealed that she was fine, just couldn't go back in to work because she hated her job so much.

I was young, and it was a shitty grocery chain filled with shitty management and shitty customers. I 100% thought she had killed herself, or skipped town for some other awful reason. It was a relief to hear she was OK. Fuck that store.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Are you ok yourself? Do you still work there?

You sound like a good person, wish you two were friends so she might not be as depressed.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago

I am in a much better environment! This was about 10 years ago, and that particular store closed. I also ghosted that job. They had been harassing my trans coworker friend so we just stopped showing up. They did NOT try to call me :)

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

what if we organized the workers but instead of striking we all just don't show up and gaslight the regional management into thinking everything's fine

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Because the store management isn't going to organize with us rabble. It's also hard to mimic the hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars worth of sales that regional looks at in their accounts. Pulling the wool over their eyes on that level is getting into bank fraud territory, and would require the aid of, and not just also not showing up, of bank workers.

[–] [email protected] 79 points 2 months ago (2 children)

people think I died

receives flowers

Checks note that came with them

"Get well soon."

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

Maybe they didn’t actually think you died, and you’re just making bold assumptions.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

It's not wise to make fun of zombies.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That reminds me when I missed the first day of teaching because of a really bad flu causing me to lose track of the dates, I got a very concerned call from my advisor who thought I offed myself. Apparently not too uncommon for underpaid adjunct professors, unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

When I was in grad school I knew a guy who just simply didn't teach for half the semester. No contact with students, no classes held, just didn't show. He gave everyone a passing grade on the midterm and came back halfway through. No explanation. He was not fired. Of course, like the rest of us, he was grossly underpaid and didn't have health insurance. I guess they get what they get if they're gonna treat us like cogs, right?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

Sometimes I wonder how people get away with stuff like this. I recall that story from Spain, I think, where a guy was getting a paycheck for like 20 years but not working at all. I guess they did a reorg and his new 'boss' didn't know about him and he never got work assigned and he just stopped showing up...for years.

It has to be a pointless job to start with, right? If I just didn't work at my job for a week it would probably get noticed. If I no-showed completely it certainly would.

I'd probably be given the benefit of the doubt for a few weeks if I just stopped producing work. I could maybe make it a month before someone said something about my performance but only because sometimes the things I work on take a while to come to fruition. And missing meetings isn't uncommon because of conflicts/being super busy.

Id probably also get the benefit of the doubt if I no-showed too. But after a two days they'd call my wife or come by my house, or send the police department to my house to check on me.

[–] Gullible 62 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is advanced ghosting.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

It’s proactive.

I ghost people before they even don’t give me their number.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 months ago (3 children)

3 month bullshit for resign? What kind of work contract is that?

[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Let me introduce you to Europe

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

To be fair this is a counterpart for being harder to get fired compared to some USA states. It makes the economy less fast to adjust but it makes people's life less stressful.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago (2 children)

IDK my man, having three months of forewarning for resignation sounds pretty cool to me. I don’t really see it as a downside. Especially in Italian law, where you can avoid making things awkward by agreeing with your employer to make the resignation time as short as you both want, as long as those three months are paid out. Blessed.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It could make you miss you a job opening that needs someone earlier. Hadn't have the issue myself, but I guess it happens.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If you’re hopping within the country, usually the local culture is adapted. I never had issues with it, employers expect you to have a resignation period.

Plus as I was saying companies don’t really like to have a working quitter, so they will usually negotiate for that time to be shortened. Maybe one month so you can transfer your knowledge to somebody else, then you’re out - with the three months money, naturally.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Three months would be excessive in the Netherlands. The legal minimum is one calendar month. When you resign you can always negotiate to shorten the period, but most of the time people will work the remainder of the contract. Also, your new employer might actually think there is something wrong if you can quit your current job faster than the one month.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Yeah one month is the standard practice here too, as a negotiated shortening of the three month notice. It’s good to have the other two months paid out, that’s all I’m saying.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

You wouldn't because everyone is expecting you to do the right, corporate thing, so they'll gladly wait for you to gracefully terminate your old job.

In tech anyways.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Europe's economy is like an old Volvo. It's slow but full of safety features in case your hit something. USA's economy is like a classic Ford Mustang. It goes really fast on the straight but when you hit a bump things can go horribly wrong quickly. ~Mark Blyth

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Depends on the country. Where I live, the maximum permitted by law is 30 days (unless both the employer and the employee agree on a different termination period). That goes for both firing and quitting.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't know what are you talking about. In my country the standard is two weeks and max one month in special cases. I've participated in the hiring of multiple people from different European countries and they never asked for more than one month to join in, except when they wanted to relocate.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

In France, the standard for software engineers is 3 months. Verified with this official source https://code.travail.gouv.fr/outils/preavis-demission. With convention "Bureaux d'études techniques, cabinets d'ingénieurs-conseils et sociétés de conseils".

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (7 children)

That's crazy. So if they present a same day resignation note they have to pay a three month salary penalty? That's just companies stealing workers' money.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I have 6 months in Germany, all managers at my company get this. I find it a bit too much, but it can usually be negotiated

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It is actually really nice.

It works both ways, if they fire you, you still have a job for 3 months at least. Giving you plenty of time to find a new job. You also get half a day per week (paid) to use for soliciting other companies.

Generally it is more devastating to lose your job than it is to lose an employee. Since you have plenty of other employees who can temporarily fill in, while you generally have only one job that pays for everything you do.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Maybe this is a difference between countries, but is fired for cause and laid off treated different? Like I can understand and appreciate the protections if your position is eliminated or something. In the US we have unemployment insurance where you can get I think 3/4 of your normal pay if laid off. But if you get fired for cause then you're on your own.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No, why you got fired does not in fact affect your need to eat food and house your family, so it's not a factor.

And if you are "laid off", ie the company says they don't need your job anymore, you are usually entitled to a pretty nice redundancy payment too - plus the usual.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

I live in the Netherlands, and fired for cause is very hard over here. Basically the employer needs solid evidence of misbehaviour, and even then most judges will still rule in favour of the employee.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Thats how it works in apparently most of europe. In poland for example its based on your tenure. With 3 month being the max after you work there for more than 3 years. If you are not important enough for the company and want to start your new work earlier it can be negotiated down i think.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I ran away from my site like this one day. I was working as an Engineer Trainee. No one gave a damn. Eventually, I returned after a month or so. Resigned in less than one month after returning. Man, I hate this country with a passion where you are not even treated as a human being, but as a machine.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You were able to leave your job for a month, come back and continue like nothing happened, then were able to resign a month after that...and you are saying you weren't treated like a human?

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 5 points 2 months ago

Yeah, that company is really tolerant. I'm guessing OP could've negotiated a sabbatical with people that lax.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Average .ml take

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Which country? (I would guess Mali since you're using a .ml domain... 😉)

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Many years ago, a woman that worked at the same place, just didn't turn up one day. I think they (the closest thing we had to HR at the time) let this slide for a week, then called her. She just said "Oh, I didn't work to work there any more".

I don't think they pursued it any further and let it at that.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 9 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I just don't understand that mentality. You burn a bridge, when you could just send an email or something saying you quit and keep the possibility of coming back sometime open. Or if your boss actually liked you, you could have gotten a recommendation, but instead decided to make their life suck.

Just send an email saying you quit, it's really not that hard.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Just show up at your own wake like Beerfest and everything will be fine.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Even better would be to wear a disguise and speak at your own funeral

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Florists hate this one trick.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

R.i.p anon your green text will be remembered

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