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Palworld maker vows to fight Nintendo lawsuit on behalf of fans and indie developers (www.eurogamer.net)

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (3 children)

Patents and video games huh? We can't ignore what John Carmack had to say about this:

The idea that I can be presented with a problem, set out to logically solve it with the tools at hand, and wind up with a program that could not be legally used because someone else followed the same logical steps some years ago and filed for a patent on it is horrifying.

--John Carmack

[–] [email protected] 1 points 38 minutes ago

More like he wouldn't be able to sell his solution to others, but yeah I think Patents on simple processes and mechanisms are dumb, especially certain software and firmware.

[+] [email protected] -9 points 38 minutes ago* (last edited 37 minutes ago) (1 children)

Dont steal my base model that I patented and made entirely by hand and then claim it as your model.

its that simple. As barbaric as the VRCHAT community can be sometimes, I can wholeheartedly agree that it is 100% a crime to take someone else's hard work, tweak it, and then pretend that you own it. Pay people their fucking respects/royalties or take a different approach. Toby Fox did it, Every other Pocket Monster-like Series in Japan did it, and so on. if your gonna make a product similar to another, especially fucking Nintendo with how notorious they are for copyright striking, TAKE THE STEPS AVAILABLE TO MAKE IT DIFFERENT. Don't churn out a "Pokemon with guns" and then get shocked with your copyright stricken. Thats fucking stupid to me. And its even stupider people are shocked it'd fuckin happen.

There's deadass so many routes they could've went with, Art-styles they could've went with, fucking game mechanics they could've went with. And they chose something that 90% of people can agree "looks like Pokémon, smells like Pokémon, functions similar Pokémon"

I mean for GOD FUCKING SAKES, At least GO WITH DIFFERENT MONSTER IDEAS. We have an ENTIRE WORLD Filled with Cryptids and mystical beasts of all kind, and Palworld STILL CHOSE TO GO for Yokai/Japanese based creatures? Get the fuck outta here with that. Homeboy coulda did American mythos and got away with that, no ones holding a patent against the design of The Flatwoods monster?? Let alone is there a "pokemon" clone of Australian Mythos, so why the fuck are we still trying to do what's already been done to death and then getting shocked with it falls flat or is criticized.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 21 minutes ago

You are conflating copyright and patents. Copyright is protection for the expression of an idea, like the art design. This is a patent issue, which is a protection of how something works.

If somehow I patent a vague mechanic like "a method of selecting weapons with the directions of an analogue stick or mouse, presented as an 8 direction on screen circle." Then I could sue Red Dead Redemption and Batman Arkham, despite there being no copyright infringement with whatever game I made with that feature.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 hours ago

Pocketpair is a Japanese company too right? That doesn't bode well, Japan has some shit laws for defending these sorts of lawsuits. I really like palworld, and don't want it to go away. Fuck Nintendo.

[+] [email protected] -7 points 31 minutes ago (2 children)

It shocks me just the amount of people rallying behind Palworld SOLEY just to "stick it to the big corp"

At worse its blind rage and ignorance

[–] [email protected] 4 points 17 minutes ago

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

IDGAF about Palworld as a game, personally. I've never played it and I don't plan to. But that doesn't make Nintendo's behavior not bullshit, and I still hope the Palworld developers win this battle.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 15 minutes ago (2 children)

I dont care who it is thats suing.

You cant fuckin make what looks and feels like "pokemon" or any other fucking property and expect to get away with it. Thats PLAGIRISM.

I DONT CARE IF ITS NINTENDO. If Palworld fucking wins, then that means that anyone else who makes 3d models, or just any kind of content IN GENERAL, can have their shit stolen, tweaked, and resold to millions. If you think that is a valid and okay thing to do to ANYONE, then go fuck yourself.

Majority of yall are the same people to bite dien on companies like ChatGBT and others a like. but once they start stealing content, patents, and recourses from large companies, then its suddenly ok. The amount of Moral flipflopping this country does is fuckin stupid at best.

This all comes down to one point and one point only

"DONT TAKE MY BASE MODEL AND USE IT WITHOUT MY CONSENT."

I've gone against nintendo on a buncha shit, I still do, this shit ain't one of em. They have the right to try someone in court if they suspect they are using their models for profit.

Theres THOUSANDS of avenues they could've taken with this game. It coulda made with voxels, coulda been legofied, it coulda been hyper realistic, coulda been created to look like Dark souls, they could've AT THE VERY LEAST, play the game of "Im making a Parody so therefore my content is fine." Theres so many avenues they coulda took to avoid shit like this. Super Mario Logan and SMG64 have been doing this shit for AGES. But nah yall are up and arms and shocked with the slightly altered Pocket Monsters game is hit with some court papers. Make it make sense, deadass.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 minutes ago

Good, then. Fuck IP laws.

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