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Israel carried out its operation against Hezbollah on Tuesday by hiding explosive material within a new batch of Taiwanese-made pagers imported into Lebanon, according to American and other officials briefed on the operation.

The pagers, which Hezbollah had ordered from Gold Apollo in Taiwan, had been tampered with before they reached Lebanon, according to some of the officials. Most were the company’s AP924 model, though three other Gold Apollo models were also included in the shipment.

The explosive material, as little as one to two ounces, was implanted next to the battery in each pager, two of the officials said. A switch was also embedded that could be triggered remotely to detonate the explosives.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

I agree, but they probably could've worded it better. The pagers were meant for Hezbollah but that doesn't mean they exclusively went to Hezbollah.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago

More like everyone's suddenly ~~gangsta~~ a 'health worker' when their pager explodes

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

two kids died in these explosions with much many more wounded.

well guess what we call groups that kill civilians with bombs?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 18 hours ago

Reminds me of the time Mossad sent letter bombs against Palestinians living abroad.

https://youtu.be/gS5cDF0IC_Y

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Imagine if everyone's phone exploded to execute like 10 guys.

Edit: The take aways here are

  1. Israel is a terrorist nation, that views civilian casualties as bonus points

  2. any country who imports their electronics instead of making their own is susceptible to this kind of tampering.

  3. The press is covering a terror attack like its some kind of new video game

[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

You could tell Israel did it by the wanton disregard of civilian casualties and the lack of a global governmental backlash against the act.

What I'm surprised is that were able to get them to believe the propaganda that pagers would be a much more secure communication medium.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The articles keep repeating "Hezbollah", but the target of the attack appears to have been the Iranian ambassador to Lebanon.

Much like the US bombing of an Iraqi airfield to kill the Iranian diplomatic delegation to Baghdad, this appears to be an entirely illegal and recklessly deployed assassination plot aimed at one guy. The thousands of injuries and the eight dead (at least two being children under the age of 11) are just collateral damage the IDF has once again blanket-tagged as "Evil Muslim Militants".

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 hours ago

That article doesn't really indicate that one person was the target, nor does making 3000 pagers or whatever they were into bombs. I find it more likely that the Iranian delegation representative was just meeting with Hezbollah at the time or received one of their pagers to stay in communication. Nothing in the articles you link suggests this was done just to target them, just that they were affected.

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[–] [email protected] 174 points 1 day ago (20 children)

So...

They're just casually admitting to another war crime?

Against someone I don't even think they're officially at war against?

[–] [email protected] 110 points 1 day ago

When there are zero consequences for war crimes, the "rules based" law and order we virtue signal is completely meaningless.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Who is a terrorist state exactly?

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Both?

I mean I'm no fan of Israel, but Hezbollah ain't exactly the Red Cross.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago

with Israel clearly having the greater outreach, destructive power and perhaps even less self regulation than Hezbollah as it seems.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 16 hours ago

It also isn't a state.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Both but one is supported by the USA so they get unlimited free passes

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago

Both USA and Israel

[–] [email protected] 94 points 1 day ago (2 children)

State sponsored terrorism.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago

Not even "sponsored", just state terrorism.

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 day ago (7 children)

How do we know these were actual terrorists and not just random people that bought a pager?

They've classified infants as Hamas terrorists before so I'm a bit skeptical.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 18 hours ago

It's worth noting that Hezbollah members aren't just militant fighters. There are also social services and Parliamentary members

Hezbollah organizes and maintains an extensive social development program and runs hospitals, news services, educational facilities, and encouragement of Nikah mut'ah. One of its established institutions, Jihad Al Binna's Reconstruction Campaign, is responsible for numerous economic and infrastructure development projects in Lebanon. Hezbollah controls the Martyr's Institute (Al-Shahid Social Association)

Hezbollah holds 14 of the 128 seats in the Parliament of Lebanon and is a member of the Resistance and Development Bloc. According to Daniel L. Byman, it is "the most powerful single political movement in Lebanon." Hezbollah, along with the Amal Movement, represents most of Lebanese Shi'a. Unlike Amal, Hezbollah has not disarmed. Hezbollah participates in the Parliament of Lebanon.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 day ago

The splodey ones all came from the same batches that were bought by Hezbolla-linked companies and distributed by them to hezbolla members. They didnt just 'upgrade' every pager made by gold apollo. Only batches destined for Hez.

Of course, theres undoubtedly a lot of people who ended up with one of the booby trapped batch, who are just regular doctors, nurses, workers, etc, and theres no certainty that the person who was issued the pager was holding it at the time. Could have been their kid, or wife, or whatever, so the attack was still not very discriminate.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 day ago (3 children)

They literally killed a child in this attack.

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 1 day ago (6 children)

This makes more sense than them being able to remotely overload a battery to make it explode.

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