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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I HATE apps that you installed to get legit notifications, say a doorbell camera, and they use it to push ads to you, or "premium" features. guess I'm not buying your brand anymore, bitch.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

my phone is only allowed to send me notifications if it's:

  • a human attempting to contact me

  • weather

and only allowed make a sound if

  • i'm watching a YouTube video

  • i'm expecting a call

then i get into my mum's car and her phone connected to Bluetooth reads out her spam email through the car speakers- 😐

[–] [email protected] 217 points 2 days ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 73 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Last time I was using a windows computer I was turning it off to re image it and I didn't want to wait for it to shut down so I just held the power button since it didn't matter if it got messed up and windows popped up this message on screen that was like "Please stop holding the power button we just need a few minutes". Like what are you doing you aren't supposed to tell the user what to do, that isn't the job of a computer

[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Funny button on the back of the PSU goes click

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I wish, the new dell optiplexes are terrible, not only do they not have an actual psu switch, it takes like 20 seconds of holding the power button before they turn off and then you have to wait like 10 seconds before you can turn it on again, during which time it does a really good job of pretending to be on and flashing disk activity lights and things but it's actually just self testing and you have to wait for it to turn back off before you can actually turn it on again. Dell used to make such good quality computers but they are genuinely awful now

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

has any OEM computer ever had a PSU switch? I thought those were only on aftermarket psus and user built machines. I've got a few Dell computers and none have a switch.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You can still yank the power chord out.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

I was known to yank a power chord or two back in college...

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The moment my computer refuses to obey my commands sent from the physical layer, is the moment it will cease to exist on this physical plane

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago (4 children)

all computers should be like the one in star trek TNG, for simple feedback it just beeps and bloops in ways that are intuitive, and if it actually needs to use speech to relay detailed information it does so in a short and efficient message delivered in a clearly roboticly neutral yet pleasant voice.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 days ago (2 children)

DEAR MACHINES:

You will speak when spoken to. You will not speak out of turn. You are there for me to use when I need you, and you will otherwise keep quiet.

You will not attempt to draw my attention nor will you take up space on my screen unless I deem it necessary. You will not be friendly or clever or use cutesy emojis.

YOU ARE A MACHINE. A TOOL. YOU WILL STAY IN MY TOOLBOX UNTIL I NEED YOU. SHUT THE FUCK UP.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Pfft, apps have to earn notifications. Do you want any notifications from a grocery app? Unless it could check the stock of my local grocery store and let me know if an unpurchased item becomes out of stock or if I can share it with a roomate and they add things to it. But even then, how much does that really matter?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Second to this: an app has to earn social media status, or social media levels of engagement.

I'm looking at you, Venmo. No, sharing my spending details with other people online, is not a good idea. Ever. Conspicuous consumption is a social blight already, and you dare taint my phone by suggesting I lean into it? Do better.

[–] [email protected] 102 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Ex-app developer here. We do it because reminder notifications boost our re-engagement by over 10%.

When an average user downloads an app, there's like a 70% chance they'll use it day 1, a 10% chance they'll use it day 7, and 1% chance they'll still be using it by day 30. A simple reminder notification after day 3 or 15 can drastically boost those numbers.

Why do we care about the numbers? Because Google and Apple care. They see higher numbers, assume it's a good app, and make it show up in the search results more frequently. This gives us more downloads.

If you're putting the time in to craft a quality app, you probably need money, which comes from ads and subscriptions, which is funneled by the number of downloads. If you don't like that as a user, stick to FDroid.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So then the answer is to uninstall apps that give you reminders - to negate the correlation that nagging users leads to positive outcomes.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 days ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago

Thanks for the reminder to delete everything I'm not using right now lol

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you want the actual reason, this is called reengagement, and its purpose is to get users to use the app again, meaning more ad revenue. Subscription apps don’t do this because they want the user to forget about the app so they get paid while providing no service. But ad driven apps only get paid when you see an ad on the app, so they’ll send these reengagement notifications. Social media apps will use something like β€œThis post picked for you”, or β€œThis many people viewed your profile”. Same thing.

[–] Ookami38 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Scruffy knows, scruffy just don't care. Only thing it does for me is get me to turn off all notifications for that app, if I need the app, or uninstall it if I don't. But I'm spiteful.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Yep. That is the best reaction to reengagement notifications.

[–] [email protected] 178 points 2 days ago (9 children)

I fucking hate notifications. I either disable them entirely or delete the app. No in betweens. Remind me to use your app?...deleted.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Based
My phone my rules

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 2 days ago (2 children)

If an app gives me more than a couple of unwanted notifications that I can't easily disable, it's uninstalled. Fuck that shit.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

Nah man, you definitely want a deal on a Lime scooter rental even though you're 500 miles from the nearest one.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 days ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

I believe it was SAP Concur that my last employer used for filing expenses. Every few months it popped up a notification asking me whether or not I "loved it." I always answered "no," because fucking why would I? Then it wanted to know why not. I think that's inappropriate behavior in a professional setting, and I told it so. Regardless, it kept asking the same thing, so I asked if it wanted me to speak to HR.

Nothing ever came of it.

TLDR got sexually harassed by a corpo app.

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The CD-Keys website changes the tab title to "We miss you" when the tab loses focus. Pisses me off enough to close it every time.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Just like when a news website pops up a request to send notifications. Um fuck no? I'm not sitting around waiting for new propaganda to drop such that I want to know immediately when something comes out.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

We should bring back pre-WW1 servant-to-master etiquette. But only and exclusively for machines talking to humans.

My computer should call me "Master " and always be extremely careful with its words around me. It is not my friend, it is my servant.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Kaiba agrees

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago

A lord/servant relationship is still a relationship.

I don't want a relationship with my tools.

If my PC starts running slow I'll tear the fucker item and start replacing shit. If the OS displeases me I'll start disabling parts. If software starts interrupting me when I'm not actively using it I change its permissions so it can only do what I tell it.

I'm not gonna give my butler a lobotomy to make him more obedient, swap the Footmen's hands out for serving platters, or kneecap the scullery maid so she can't leave the kitchen.

If my phone dies, it gets scrapped and I replace it without shedding a tear. I can't say the same for a loyal Valet.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Tesco App: We have coupons and deals for you. :)

Me: BEGONE THOT!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Why would you even have an app like that installed? Does it do anything else than display the latest offers, like a website does?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago

IF YOU CAN TELL ME YOU HAVE DEALS FOR ME WHY CAN'T YOU APPLY THEM AUTOMATICALLY

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The answer: tech bros dictating that they need more β€œengagement” e.g. they need to collect more data so they can either sell said data or get acquired. I guarantee you very few mobile developers want to send you a notification of any sort, much less β€œwhy haven’t you used the app.”

[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I wish I could murder engagement driven design with a hammer.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Every app gets like, 1 chance to have useful notifications, if most of them are trash I just disable its ability to send notifications.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago (11 children)

I received a notification to use Door Dash yesterday, to order food... while I was cooking soup.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I force stop the app. I either do it manually or run the hibernator app.

Uber eats wants me to order something?? Congrats you just got yourself and all your friends shut off.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tafayor.hibernator

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 days ago

contains ads and in app purchases

skidaddle skidash
you go in the trash

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

This is why we need better resource/battery management services with Magisk or Xposed integration. On my phone the Rom has one integrated already, lets you set apps to be prevented from running in the background completely, preventing tracking, annoying notifications, and battery usage. Though unfortunately these types of tools aren't available on all roms, and they really need root or system access to be effective.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (4 children)

There's no way I'd use a grocery app. Paper and pen works well enough.

Now, if my phone had a slide-out physical keyboard like it did back in fucking 2007, I'd consider it. As it is, typing on phones is pain.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Any man who must say "I am the king" is no true king.

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