If you're an undecided you've always been a bit of a cunt but now especially.
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At this point the undecideds look 10X dumber than the average MAGA supporter. MAGAs either fell for the rage bait or they think they'll be rewarded somehow (also falling for that lie since Trump only ever rewards his own family). But to be fucking "undecided" between what I think is a somewhat moderate and capable candidate in Harris and a clearly authoritarian grifter in Trump, you need to be straight up committed to a hospital because you probably have a tumor.
Those cunts ain't voting, I guarantee it.
They are, they'll vote for Trump, they just don't want to admit it publicly.
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And the fate of the entire country rests in their hands.
No it doesn't. If the decided voters turn out, then it GG and Republicans never win another election.
Well, as long as their eligibility/registration isn't tossed under dubious means, there are enough polling stations where they live, they have the ability to go (as in not working or their work allows them to go), their vote sent by mail isn't caught in a USPS black hole until right after the deadline despite being submitted long before, so on, and so on.
I can't imagine how anyone looks at Trump, and who he is as a person, then compares to Harris and still can't decide. The choice is so painfully clear, it's not even a choice. Trump isn't fit for office at any level, let alone the highest office in the land.
I can't imagine how anyone looks at Trump,
the people 'undecided' arent looking at anything. they just dont consume media in the same manner, if at all, as the rest of us. there are humans who actively avoid all politics, and in the united states this is actually very easy to do.
we have bred an entire class of humans who just do not give a shit, and its hard to get them to suddenly care 'this cycle'
I don’t understand why anyone cares about the “undecideds”. These people sound like morons who wouldn’t listen to reason anyway.
Stop begging for scraps. These people make up about three percent of potential voters, and I doubt most of them even bother to go to the polls.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/poll-three-percent-voters-still-035900135.html
Literally every election is decided by the “undecided”. Democrats vote democrat and republicans vote republican. It rare that anyone changes party. What determines elections is if democrats can get people who wouldn’t otherwise vote to vote. Every time people turn out, democrats win. When people are uninterested they lose. Those ~50k people in suburbs of swing states are not unimportant, they are the only thing that matters.
This premise gets thrown around a lot but I actually disagree. "Every time people turn out" is always also thrown in there like some arbitrary thing--when I think the past several election cycles have shown that when there are younger, more progress candidates who make it past the primaries turnout shoots up. Courting the 3% uninformed flip-floppers by moving right is a losing strategy when you could be motivating your own party to turn out by moving left and driving turnout up. There's no money in that though, so dumb centrists get wooed
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Some of them are also "goldfish voters." These people only engage with whatever political message has been delivered to them most recently. They literally can go from D to R and back again bumper sticker to bumper sticker.
Then there are the obligate ego independents. Their only political belief is that they must vote for both parties some of the time. If they voted D last time then they will probably vote R this time. Because their identity is "independent" so they must manifest that, all reason be damned.
In other words, morons.
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In court there's such a thing as a directed verdict, and also ruling on an issue as a matter of law. Basically where there's no reasonable jury that could decide otherwise, the judge directs the decision.
That's kind of how I feel - not removing the democratic process obviously, but this is a situation you can be for Trump or reasonable, not both.
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Imagine being this fucking willfully ignorant
Holy hell those three people are infuriating.
"Yeah, he's a racist and a bigot, but my pocketbook..." Lady, unless you make enough that it doesn't matter, he's not going to help your pocketbook.
He's going to hurt your pocketbook*
Let's be real here.
I guarantee that woman has been registered R her entire life, sees why he is problematic on a very superficial level, and is still going to AT BEST abstain from voting but more likely vote for him anyhow.
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I cannot understand these wishy-washy, fencing idiots. Do they live in caves? Not just any caves either, But the one Plato talks about? Seriously WTF is wrong with these people. If you don't know what Trump stands for after all of these years, and can't understand what Harris is about, then you seriously should just smack yourself in the face with a cast iron skillet - repeatedly - until either you smash the stupid out of yourself or fall into a coma. I honestly don't care which.
That's essentially what I told my wife last night. If you're undecided and watched the debate and still are undecided, just admit you're a Trump voter.
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Anyone still claiming to be undecided about Donald Trump in 2024 is full of shit
If you saw that debate and came out with, "Hmm, but which one should I vote for?", just say you're voting for Trump. Say that shit with your chest, loud and proud. I wanna know what places to avoid.
~~He said immigrants are eating people's pets for fucks sake.~~
I swear, you could have Hitler reincarnate with Himmler as vice president looking exactly the same as how they looked like in WW2 and use the exact same rhetoric, and the current undecided voters would still be equally clueless on who to vote for, assuming they're actually undecided and not "closeted conservative voter who doesn't want to look bad".
Undecided voters don’t matter in this election. There’s so few of them, and most of them are just people who are too scared to say they support Trump.
This election will be decided by turnout.
Last night’s CNN interviews with undecided PA voters made me want to weep for the electorate.
So many of them really were clueless.
For what it's worth, there's been talk that they're really having to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find true undecided voters willing to go on TV and be part of these panels. That's unfortunate in the sense that it suggests there aren't many actually-persuadable voters out there, but these clowns aren't especially representative of the general electorate, either.
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I know that there are a number of people who simply don't pay attention and suddenly realize that they have no idea what's going on when election time comes around. THEY are the undecided voters.
What you see in the media, however, does not convince me that they are genuinely undecided. I believe that a lot of people claim it for the attention they get. Then we have examples of people pretending even though they are actually part of someone's campaign.
I find it hard to believe in these circumstances there are truly undecided. trump was president for four years and there was so much crazy. If someone saw and agree if it was crazy I can't see them voting for him and if someone did not see or did not agree it was crazy then I think its likely they will vote for him.
I just can't make up my mind on this one... should I eat a salad, or light my testicles on fire? I mean, it's not that I want my testicles on fire, it's just that I'm really not in the mood for salad.
Six one, half dozen the other, ya know?!
Only way you could be undecided is if you are lying about supporting Trump because you are ashamed to be associated with his name.
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If you're still undecided at this point, you don't deserve to vote.
Undecided to being a racist nazi you mean. I don’t see how a true republican can support such a divisive felony candidate.
Jesus. That Andrew Wallace guy is a dumb motherfucker lol.
To see that lump of shit Trump laid on the stage last night and go "Yeah, I'm a Democrat and all, but that's my guy right there!!"
That dude is a republican just like that last asshole that conned his way into CNNs "undecided voters" bullshit.
I've never understood how some 70 million Americans watched Trump speak and said "aaah, THIS is my president". You have to have some mental disability to actually choose this dude. Or you're just an evil asshole who wants personal gains.
Most are probably some combination of both evil and stupid.
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Wrestling with the hardest decision since cake or death.
Election 2024: High five vs kick in the nuts
Yes, but surely he wouldn’t kick ME in the nuts… just those people I don’t like, right? Why would I want someone to high five THEM?
I mean , sometimes SNL is truer to life than is comfortable. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAG37Kw1-aw
Need to stop focusing on undecidedvoters and get people that don't (consistently) vote to vote. If they aren't decided by now wouldn't count on them.
Le enlightened apolitical centrist
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