I just noticed that active users on Lemmy got slashed, what happened?
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Lemmy devs decided to exclude lemmy.world from the join-lemmy site because it's too big. Obviously that removes a lot of active users.
this post was submitted on 10 Sep 2024
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That's stupid.
The main problem with lemmy now is adoption, there isn't a critical mass of users yet.
When users see the stats without lemmy.world, they'll be discouraged from joining. Add to that the issues with federation and the few who join will leave because of the steep learning curve.
Way to alienate potential users.
Yeah. If they pushed it to the bottom of the list, or even removed them from the list but kept the user count, I could kind of understand it. But censoring them completely for being too successful seems like shooting yourself in the foot.
Lemmy.world is doing great and I'm happy for it and all that, but... 20 000 monthly active users does not exactly make them a tech giant that needs to be kept in check just yet. Ideally, instances of 20 000 active users should be quite normal at some point, and having stress tested the software before then should, one assumes, be a good thing.
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The decentralisation probably doesn't help either. People coming to Lemmy from other places are coming from a centralised system. That takes some getting used to.
If you're new to this, you can be forgiven by thinking that all the Lemmy instances are their own separate thing, like the forums of old, rather than that they're all interconnected (excluding a whole bunch of stuff about defederation and all of that mess).
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Holy shit, the most active instance right now on the website is LemmyNSFW.
Ahem maybe not the best choice of character there old chap
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Right, I didn't think how it would affect the total active user count. Will have to think of a solution for that.
I guess a new flag to only exclude it from the list but not exclude it from the stats 🤷
Or even some logic to automatically exclude from the list any instance with more than x% of active users.
so lemmy.world became too big to fail and the other instances decided didn't want to risk a potential bail out?
This has nothing to do with other instances. The join-lemmy.org site is run by the Lemmy developers and they decide what happens with that site. They think it's problematic that lemmy.world is as big as it is (as one of the points of the fediverse is decentralization). So they removed lemmy.world from the listing on join-lemmy.org.
Note that this is in no way a defederation or anything of that sort. The site just doesn't show lemmy.world, that's all.
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So, most user are passive user. Maybe they leave because nothing interesting.
One another hypothesis is that the stats is not count fully as some instance was not up to the task, slow, ... So the now stat is under-count
So, most user are passive user.
Always has been: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1%25_rule
The actual reason is here: https://sh.itjust.works/comment/13842484
Second attempt, I removed lemmy.world from the blocklist and instead added some code to hide any instances with more than 30% of all active users.
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Part of it is that people also moved on from Lemmy too. Lemmy is nice, but there also isn't very much by way of activity on it, which feeds back into itself. No activity means there's nothing to draw people into it, and not enough to keep them around when they are there.
One of the communities and (non-world) instances I frequented is all but dead these days.
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I think because we have mostly memes and any discussion is just won by downvoting your opponent. :)
I'm half serious... The platform right now is lacking actual discussions. Everyone seems to just like memes.
The platform right now is lacking actual discussions.
I keep promoting the non-memes communities every time I can (usually on [email protected] ), after a while it just seems like most of the users do not actually even want to discuss that much, just look at memes (which is also fine)
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Unfortunately, the Lemmy community copied opinion downvoting from Reddit.
There are good reasons to downvote, but a different opinion is not one of them. This just leads to echo chambers.
There are 3 options: upvote, downvote and the 3rd one is just not clicking anything.
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Did lemmy do something in the meantime to keep bots out?
If a lot of them can't operate anymore like before they wouldn't count as active users anymore either and would explain discrepancies, or not?
Not that I know anything about how bots or websites work tbh.
Idk if bots were ever that present on here, excluding the ones that basically scrape reddit for content
School probably.
Honestly, what's more surprising is the numbers are that drastic. I didn't think we have that many Gen Z users here.
EDIT: Actual reason can be found here: https://feddit.dk/post/7667476/10289642
Thanks SorteKanin for providing the context.
I don’t get it. I work full time and have no problem wasting my ~~life~~ I mean time here…
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Lemmy pulled a CNN. Basically, all Trump news again.
Eh, i doubt it's that. Every other website is doing the same shit.
Likely it's just that Lemmy has a fraction of the content/activity that Reddit has, so people probably just came to Lemmy, got bored, and went back to Reddit, ha.
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