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[–] [email protected] 237 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Normally you’d say she was killed by the IDF, or Israel shot and killed an American.

Instead the media makes strong use of passive voice:

Witnesses say Aysenur Ezgi Eygi, 26, was fired at by Israel Defense Forces soldiers positioned in a nearby field

[–] [email protected] 96 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The news loves to focus on individual Israeli hostages and victims by providing backgrounds and what they do for a living, but for the most part just lists Palestinian deaths by numbers and only occasionally includes names or family relationships.

There is one news agency, I think the BBC, which used the phrase "unprecedented attack" to refer to the Oct atrocity that kicked off the current hostilities but doesn't use any similar phrasing for the IDF killing many times more civilians as a response. So apparently genocide doesn't need called out in a similar fashion because it is apparently not unprecedented.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago

They're not technically wrong at least, the IDF killing civilians has plenty of precedent.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

...was fired at...

Gotta love a passive voice so passive that it doesn't even clarify that she was shot and killed and not merely "fired at".

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago

IDF soldiers have been seen pulling small levers on handheld devices.

Eygi fell to the ground with blood coming out of her head around the same time.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

Could be rephrased as: US puppet military kills its own citizen

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

To be fair, they do use the same language often enough when reporting about police shootings. Which does not make it any better though.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean. "she was killed by the IDF" is passive voice, no? I think IDF is out of control as much as the next person but passive voice can be communicative and clear as much as active voice. And clearly it's easy to reach for if you gave it as a counter example accidentally.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The problem is not that they use the passive voice, it's that they use the passive voice systematically for one side and the active for the other. It's always "Hamas kills" versus "shot dead by the IDF", and usually the "by the IDF" part is buried in the article instead of the headline.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

I've seen reports that just say someone "dies" instead of that the IDF killed them.

[–] [email protected] 140 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

Over 20 years ago they ran over US citizen Rachel Corrie with a bulldozer when she protested Israel stealing Palestinian land.

As horrible and disgusting as it is: it's the same as it ever was.

The US doesn't even give a damn about it's own citizens when it comes to Israel.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 2 months ago

Hell the US came and joined Israel's side in a war after the IDF sank the USS Liberty.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Over 20 years ago they ran over US citizen Rachel Corrie with a bulldozer when she protested Israel stealing Palestinian land. As horrible and disgusting as it is: it's the same as it ever was. The US doesn't even give a damn about it's own citizens ~~when it comes to Israel.~~

[–] ZombiFrancis 25 points 2 months ago

Unfortunately this person did not have a western sounding name so there's going to be even less attention than Rachel's murder received.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago

The Israeli government found they did nothing wrong and rejected the suit her parents brought against the state for a symbolic $1 (one US Dolllar).

Par for the course.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

Israel also killed US. citizen Jacob Flickinger from world food kitchen in Gaza a few months ago.

[–] [email protected] 107 points 2 months ago (3 children)

And the saddest thing is that if she wasn't an American citizen this incident would have simply been briefly mentioned in the news without providing a name or a story.

You remember the food kitchen workers and how much noise there were around those killings. But the reality is since the conflict started at least 284 aid workers were killed and no one is talking about it: https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-gaza-war-palestinians-statistics-40000-7ebec13101f6d08fe10cedbf5e172dde.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago

I'd argue that assuming they'd even get a passing mention is overly charitable - to your point, look at all the aid workers murdered outside that particular instance that got no reporting... and the fact that people need to be told that they've killed hundreds of aid workers and journalists - the most per day of any conflict in history initially.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It's the same thing with any first world. When one of their citizens are murdered abroad, it makes headlines.

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[–] jaemo 9 points 2 months ago

Kin selection is still our most wildly popular drug.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Kamala Harris issued a Whitehouse statement condemning Hamas after the body of an American hostage was found last week:

Hamas is an evil terrorist organization. With these murders, Hamas has even more American blood on its hands. I strongly condemn Hamas’ continued brutality, and so must the entire world.

...

As Vice President, I have no higher priority than the safety of American citizens, wherever they are in the world.

Will this be the trigger for her to use equally strong language to condemn Israel, who has killed 30 times more people in the ongoing genocide than Hamas? Or will she just reiterate as she did in her recent CNN interview that:

I’m unequivocal and — and unwavering in my commitment to Israel’s defense and its ability to defend itself.

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CNN Reporter: But no change in policy in terms of arms and — and so forth?

No.

Does she care about all Americans, or only those whose deaths justify continuing this genocide?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Shame “genocide Kamala” doesn’t have the same ring, maybe “colonizer Kamala”?

Either way I’m disappointed, I had some hope and refrained from commenting about her for a while, but it’s clear she has zero intention of differing her stance from Biden.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why is the US so soft on Israel killing US citizens, but so harsh on... anyone else that does it?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I mean, the Saudis did it a few years ago and we really didn't raise much of a stink.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Great point. Can't risk our oil interests!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

The US makes Billions of dollars annually from Saudi Arabia and Israel, so they don't care when either of them murder, torture or rape people even when it's children.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I mean, y'all raised one hell of a stink about it, in Iraq, and every airport in the world.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I was thinking about Khashoggi, but fair point.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Oof, I'd forgotten about that.

It seem like the "American lives" bit is a front for already having a reason to do something but not wanting to admit it. Thought that's just normal international diplomacy world wide.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The CNN article got comments from two other people present.

A resident:

Dr. Hisham Dweikat, a resident of Beita who took part in the demonstration, told CNN that as the protest was wrapping up, the Israeli military started firing tear gas towards the crowd.

“As people were running away, live fire was shot and a soldier fired directly at the protesters, hitting the American activist in the head from behind and falling to the ground,” he said.

An American activist:

Eygi was crouched behind a dumpster at the bottom of a hill when gunfire began, Vivi Chen, an American activist who was at the demonstration and who volunteers for Faza’a – another pro-Palestinian group which works in partnership with ISM – told CNN. Chen confirmed Eygi was there with ISM.

“We were all at the bottom of the hill and the Israeli army was at the top,” Chen said. “There were two volunteers sitting behind a dumpster and they fired one shot at the dumpster. It hit a metal plane. And then there was another shot and they shot – they shot her in the head.”

...

“They are one of the most advanced armies in the world,” Chen said. “They have weapons from America. It is not an accident that they hit her in the head. That was on purpose. It’s not that they shot a hundred shots at the same time, and she was hit with one. We were all standing still, not moving. Just standing there, and they shot her through the head.”

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 months ago (20 children)

What an anti-semite, she literally came in front of the bullet and then died to make israel look bad.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago (3 children)

The Israeli soldiers seem to be murderers and killers who shoot wildly at the slightest provocation. They probably deliberately escalated this protest too.

Israel is a fascist regime that should face harsh sanctions.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I think a more sensible nation than the US would freeze shipments to israel until a full investigation was concluded.

Not only does failing to react to this give Israel free reign to murder US citizens, but it also says the US probably won't make any effort to protect any americans abroad.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

US's foreign policy is about as sensible as their gun laws.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Don’t worry, the IDF will investigate themselves and (yet again) find no deliberate wrongdoing but maybe admit that ‘regrettable mistakes’ were made. This legal fig leaf is required so that an actually independent judiciary cannot enforce international law.

Article 17 of the Rome Statute allows the ICC to step in and exercise jurisdiction where states are unable or unwilling genuinely to investigate or prosecute

As long as there’s some form of judicial action by an Israeli court, the IDF can push everything under the rug and get away with what they please.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I wonder if Kamala or anyone in the white house will talk about this? They won't because they're owned by CUFI/AIPAC

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