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[–] [email protected] 88 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm surprised there isn't some phone footage from randos somewhere

[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The campaign's spokesperson Steven Cheung, who by the way answers the unasked question, 'what if r/the_donald were a person?', threatened to release a video and then immediately demurred.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Cheung accused an Arlington National Cemetery employee of having a mental health crisis in the response. Because they were doing their job, trying to prevent a thumbs up photo op at a fucking graveside.

Fucker needs jail time.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Charge that fucking traitorous shitstain already. Surely this violates the terms of his parole, wtf😩

"Federal law prohibits political campaign or election-related activities within Army National Military Cemeteries, to include photographers, content creators or any other persons attending for purposes, or in direct support of a partisan political candidate's campaign," according to the statement. "Arlington National Cemetery reinforced and widely shared this law and its prohibitions with all participants."

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 months ago (4 children)

misleading headline.

In a statement to NPR, Arlington National Cemetery said it "can confirm there was an incident, and a report was filed."

that is the extent of the gvt statement, in this article at least.

When the cemetery official tried to prevent Trump campaign staff from entering Section 60, campaign staff verbally abused and pushed the official aside, according to the source.

the source is the venerable "source with knowledge of the incident".

chance of trumps people being complete aholes bullying people around like goons is 100% - but that headline, man.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I think NPR updated the headline to “Trump campaign staff had altercation with official at Arlington National Cemetery”. Besides “on the record” is completely made up. Anything you say to an official or journalist is “on the record” if they’re recording it. The Hollywood trope is just made up stuff like “you have to tell me if you’re a cop”.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

There is now a report on the record. "On the record", meaning that the appropriate authorities have to review it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Uhg. No. Well, yes in the most literal sense: if it is recorded there is a record of it, BUT if you ask a journalist to keep something off the record and they agree, then whatever you then disclose is usually not published of otherwise made public. See: journalists like having good relationships with their sources and if the journalist gets a reputation for saying something is off the record and then writing about it, people stop talking to them. OTH, if a journalist happens to see something heinous, you probably won't be able to retroactively get them to let it slide -- but in that case the journalist isn't betraying a trust.

TLDR; You can't force a journalist keep something off the record, but if you ask in advance, they might agree.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

I mean, if we're nitpicking about "pushed" vs "assaulted", well...

[–] pelespirit 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

When the cemetery official tried to prevent Trump campaign staff from entering Section 60, campaign staff verbally abused and pushed the official aside, according to the source.

"Federal law prohibits political campaign or election-related activities within Army National Military Cemeteries, to include photographers, content creators or any other persons attending for purposes, or in direct support of a partisan political candidate's campaign," according to the statement. "Arlington National Cemetery reinforced and widely shared this law and its prohibitions with all participants."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

The title is that they the army admitted on the record to this. What you're quoting is some source saying it happened. It's not hard for me to believe it happened, but these are very different things that are miles apart.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

The current NPR headline at least is the much more anodyne "Trump campaign staff had altercation with official at Arlington National Cemetery"

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago

This is how they act when they're actively seeking good PR.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This incident reads like the Bible in front of the church thing while he was President, except this time he was told “No.”

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

He didn't even ask about the church, he just tear gassed the block to clear out all the normies, and pastors and worshipers and babies, y'know, dangerous folk, right before he walked over so he wouldn't have to mix with them. I'm not even joking.

Gen. Miley had no knowledge of the gassing or the intent of the walk and subsequent photo. By the time he had left Trumps presence and got back to his office, Trump had already posted it, making it seem like his actions were sanctioned by the Pentagon, like he had the support of the generals. Miley immediately went public calling bullshit, no doubt against whatever norms Arlington has set up for social media and high ranking officials.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Legend is he would have been told "no" at the church, but church people were attacked and driven off along with the protesters.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago
[–] mindbleach 7 points 2 months ago

Charge everyone but The Idiot, if for some goddamn reason, it is unthinkable he should be accountable. Make people think twice about being near him.

Though that phrasing implies they've thought once.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Classy as always.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why does this guy or anyone associated with him even have a political career anymore?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

there is still a money spigot