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[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 months ago (4 children)

misleading headline.

In a statement to NPR, Arlington National Cemetery said it "can confirm there was an incident, and a report was filed."

that is the extent of the gvt statement, in this article at least.

When the cemetery official tried to prevent Trump campaign staff from entering Section 60, campaign staff verbally abused and pushed the official aside, according to the source.

the source is the venerable "source with knowledge of the incident".

chance of trumps people being complete aholes bullying people around like goons is 100% - but that headline, man.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I think NPR updated the headline to “Trump campaign staff had altercation with official at Arlington National Cemetery”. Besides “on the record” is completely made up. Anything you say to an official or journalist is “on the record” if they’re recording it. The Hollywood trope is just made up stuff like “you have to tell me if you’re a cop”.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

There is now a report on the record. "On the record", meaning that the appropriate authorities have to review it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Uhg. No. Well, yes in the most literal sense: if it is recorded there is a record of it, BUT if you ask a journalist to keep something off the record and they agree, then whatever you then disclose is usually not published of otherwise made public. See: journalists like having good relationships with their sources and if the journalist gets a reputation for saying something is off the record and then writing about it, people stop talking to them. OTH, if a journalist happens to see something heinous, you probably won't be able to retroactively get them to let it slide -- but in that case the journalist isn't betraying a trust.

TLDR; You can't force a journalist keep something off the record, but if you ask in advance, they might agree.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

I mean, if we're nitpicking about "pushed" vs "assaulted", well...

[–] pelespirit 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

When the cemetery official tried to prevent Trump campaign staff from entering Section 60, campaign staff verbally abused and pushed the official aside, according to the source.

"Federal law prohibits political campaign or election-related activities within Army National Military Cemeteries, to include photographers, content creators or any other persons attending for purposes, or in direct support of a partisan political candidate's campaign," according to the statement. "Arlington National Cemetery reinforced and widely shared this law and its prohibitions with all participants."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

The title is that they the army admitted on the record to this. What you're quoting is some source saying it happened. It's not hard for me to believe it happened, but these are very different things that are miles apart.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

The current NPR headline at least is the much more anodyne "Trump campaign staff had altercation with official at Arlington National Cemetery"