Whatever they fine him is just the cost of materials
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And it should be several hundred times the cost of replacing that sand, so that it's a more economically sound move to not break the law and destroy the environment while they're at it.
If there is sand to replace it with.
Yes, everything is awful.
as with everything else, we'll start fixing it when it's too late to do anything
the fine should be a percentage of his net worth. 10% sounds healthy
10%?
Minimum wage is $15080. A speeding ticket can be $209-$409. That’s 2%. He should be fined a percentage of of his wealth equal to (cost of his douchebaggery)/(minimum wage yearly)*100. Multiply by 10 for a fine
for this guy, 10% is at least $100,000,000.00 for this fine.
And he's still a billionaire who can do whatever the fuck he wants
what are you proposing, death? christ
Not opposed to it, fuck those greedy bastards.
Start with the cost of reparing/fixing/whatevering the beach; then add a fine based on income. 10% of monthly income sounds about right for this.
same with financial crimes. they seize any profits and then fin the shit out of them, based on their earnings for a given period.
speeding tickets, same. monthly income percentage.
Better yet, require public access to wherever that sand was placed!
Haha would be amazing if just a group of beach bums set up camp on the public sand.
I think it's only fair they fine him the maximum potential value of the materials.
Sand made of silicon, which is used to make CPUs
You can spend 25 grand on an intel Xeon weighing about 50g
A scoop of sand is probably 50kg = 25 million
How many scoops were taken?
Plus a couple dozen million
Stealing sand, stealing indigenous land in Hawaii for your private bunker, never paying taxes, getting away with rape... when you're rich, they let you do it.
Ooh, crossover moment!
The beachfront homeowners in Hawaii are notoriously parasite foreigners from the other 48 states, literal local crime bosses, or just old plantation money.
They buy up all these mansions and act like the beaches are their property, blocking public access easements and building illegal seawalls that accelerate beach erosion, and harassing groups of middle schoolers on conservation field trips. Because of course they don’t have jobs.
The beach is not theirs. In Hawaiian culture, beaches are sacred and for the people. This is enshrined in state law. ALL beach in the state is public property.
The state has (had) the most beautiful culture and environment I’ve ever seen in the world. And it’s well past ruined by colonization.
Hawaii is one of, if not the most, solidly Democrat state in the entire nation. I’m sure just one more election and they’ll get right to work!
John Oliver just did a segment on what billionaires are doing to Hawaii. That's why I brought it up.
Well, it’s either justice or a yacht, which would you pick?
Everybody should go to Carbon Beach. Millionaires have been illegally blocking access for years. It’s a public beach and they’re finally paying for it in a lawsuit. Go ruin their day. Realistically they’re probably at some other expensive property across the globe.
Make it such that anywhere the sand is is now public.
〽 Anywhere the sand goes
Property rights don't matter
To meeeeee~
This is the only correct solution. Otherwise, deterrance is never actuated
This is some captain planet bullshit.
I always felt bad for the kid who got stuck with the shitty heart ring and couldn't do stuff like shoot fire.
It’s ok. All of them failed at their jobs every single time anyway.
Why Ma-Ti was the most powerful Planeteer:
He might have been the most powerful, but he usually didn't do much.
Also, where the hell did Captain Planet go when he left?
Captain planet was an amalgamation of their souls/wills/psyche, projected through the rings.
He didn't go anywhere when he left, he ceased to be.
He was not.
Hmmm an illegal mining operation.....
Not like msha has any teeth for the rich though.
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