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[–] [email protected] 85 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Last I checked cars exist with more regulations than most heavy machinery. I don’t disagree with your position but this is a poor argument.

[–] JohnDClay 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah, my uncle has a back hoe and I don't think he's had any training on it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'll chime in... I have a backhoe and I assure you I've never had any training.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Leave my mother out of this.

[–] JungleJim 7 points 2 years ago

She'll be disappointed to miss out

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Pretty sure your uncle doesn't drive his back hoe 120km/h down a public road. Also atleast where I live back hoe equipped tractor needs to be licensed, driven by tractor licensed person to travel down public road. If it isn't so, it needs to be trailer loaded from work siteto another.

Also tycally to commercially operate heavy machine either industry regulation or just business sanity demands trained operators.

I would note, you don't need drivers license to drive a car on private closed road. Go crush oneself in car volt on private yard all one wants, the issue is untrained person driving on public road endangers others. That is why there is also demand for traffic insurance for the other parties damages, not ones own damage.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 years ago

You say that like theres some kinda regulations on heavy machinery

[–] AlligatorBlizzard 35 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's what the "don't take when operating heavy machinery" labels on medications are referring to for most people, I'm not sure how many people actually realize that though, and that's a scary thought.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Most people are like "oh that's fine it's not like I'm a pilot or a nuclear engineer." And then proceed to drive their car at 120 km/h on the highway.

Come to think of it, why not just make it crystal clear and say "don't drive when taking this medicine" on the label?

[–] CompN12 5 points 2 years ago

That's what my melatonin pills say.

"Do not drive or use machinery for 5 hours after taking melatonin."

Although I follow the directions I swear the supplements are 95% placebo.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago (6 children)

To top it off, ebikes and escooters have speed limiters or are outright banned in many places, yet cars never have speed limiters in them.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Cars 100% have limiters on them. Required by law.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

Fun fact: different places have different laws but the same internet!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

In what way?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Totally not required by law

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What law? There is no such law in either the US or Canada (US because the internet is generally US-Centric, Canada because that's where I am)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The vehicles do have governors, but it's more about whats safe for the vehicle and its tire rating than road speeds.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Not all vehicles in North America have governors nor is it required by law.

Alot of Japanese cars do but that’s because they didn’t bother removing the governor that they use in Japan (190kph/118mph). Most American and European manufactured cars are limited by transmission or physics and not governors.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

What are you asking for?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Do cars (like other heavy machinery) not need a licence of some sort to use where you live?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

It's trivially easy to get a driver's license in US and Canada, and you don't need regular retesting.

So yes, but that's not the point.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Thought it said cats

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Hot take i haven't seen anywhere else, I love it

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