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submitted 3 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Jeremy Clarkson: Just been for a walk round the farm and I'm a bit alarmed by how few butterflies there are.

Something is afoot.

Danny Wallace: Diesel-smelling Top Gear host who threatened climate protestors misses butterflies.

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[–] [email protected] 363 points 3 months ago (16 children)

To be fair. His farming ventures have moved his opinion on climate in a positive direction. People can change their mind and that is a good thing. I would even go as far as calling it a very good sign that even a person as stubborn as the great ape Clarkson can change their opinion on this matter is absolutely fantastic. Good on Clarkson! And fuck the other guy for shoving up the past in his face when he is trying to be better.

[–] [email protected] 151 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

To be fair. His farming ventures have moved his opinion on climate in a positive direction.

But have they? His insistence at this point is that he doesn't have to do anything, or change anything, science will "solve the issue". Nothing better than someone who thinks any mess they make can be cleaned up by someone else so why bother trying to make any changes that makes your life slightly less convenient?

He added: ‘I won’t drive a Tesla. I’ve got probably 10 cars, all with V8 engines. I don’t think electric cars solve anything. Science is going to be needed here, not politics. Science will solve it eventually. Always does.’

https://metro.co.uk/2024/04/29/problem-jeremy-clarksons-global-warming-joke-20736068/

To be fair. His farming ventures have moved his opinion on climate in a positive direction.

[–] [email protected] 124 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (6 children)

Uhh isn’t progressing to electric cars… science progressing to help solve the issue? What a strange train of thoughts.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I know someone who has a similar outlook (climate change is real but science will solve it, so we don't need to change anything). Basically anything science produces toward that end they will move the goalpost and say it's not worth pursuing because science will fix it.

It is essentially their way of making climate change denialism seem reasonable and open-minded. I think if somebody came up with a miracle device to magically reverse everything, they'd complain it's too costly at any price.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It is essentially their way of making climate change denialism seem reasonable and open-minded. I think if somebody came up with a miracle device to magically reverse everything, they’d complain it’s too costly at any price.

Yup. When/if we do find a way to dial back global warming, billionaires will be screaming for us to not use it because they've already found ways to make money off of people dying.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago

See: American healthcare system.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

Uhh isn’t progressing to electric cars… science progressing to help solve the issue?

No. It isn't.

It's capitalism shifting their private transport scam from an energy source that they exploited the living crap out off to another that they haven't mismanaged into the ground yet.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 months ago (2 children)

He's right about electric cars not solving anything but wrong about politics not solving it. Science has already provided the solutions like over a decade ago but no one is willing to implement it.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

I'm really tired of this pervasive fantasy where people actually think we can get rid of all cars and bring public transport to the masses in the space of a year.

We live in a car centric society and changing that is going to take a decade at the minimum.

EVs are our best solutions currently, we don't have time to wait for trains or hydrogen. We should absolutely start trying to phase cars out completely but that doesn't negate the fact that saying "EVs don't help" is essentially being an oil barons mouthpiece.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

changing that is going to take a decade at the minimum.

And that’s way too optimistic. Given the life expectancy of modern autos, the “quick” option of EVs will be a couple decades or more.

Building car-centric towns and cities has taken most of a century of constant growth. Now those cities exist and we no longer have the growth so rebuilding them is a much bigger job. We’re talking many decades, likely a century or more. In the meantime we can’t afford to be stuck with ICE.

Although maybe you’re not from the US so the problem is not as severe. Here in Massachusetts we also have the advantage of so many towns and cities being built out before cars. We’re “behind” on being car-centric so hopefully can fix that trend more quickly

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

Science is pushing electric cars for a reason. Clarkson's an idiot.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I don’t think electric cars solve anything. Science is going to be needed here, not politics. Science will solve it eventually. Always does.

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (6 children)

If he’s changed wouldn’t he know what the issue was? It’s a little worrying that he hasn’t made the connection if that’s the case.

I don’t see this as a change of opinion, just a severe lack of understanding as a whole.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You are probably right. Or maybe he just wants to create a discussion

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Is it possible a tweet doesn't contain the entirety of his thoughts on the subject?

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 3 months ago (1 children)

To be fair. His farming ventures have moved his opinion on climate in a positive direction.

Standard issue conservative. They only complain when it begins to affect them. If he didn't have a farm, would he still have moved in that direction?

Nope.

A common characteristic of conservatives is a lack of empathy.

Am I happy he did? Yes.

Am I holding my breath that he'll actually vote for change? Nope.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 months ago (1 children)

meh. he profited personally off of lambasting the very scientists who were trying to warn us. he literally made his fortune off of glorifying petrol guzzling shitwagons.

fuck clarkson. he's a fucking toolbag who's just now - as the world is on fire- is slowly starting to wake to the crisis he personally helped fuel.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Someone missed the episode(s?) where he raced the public transit system and lost. Or raced other drivers in noticeably slower cars in highly congested traffic and lost, or raced a bicycle and lost.

A semi-common through-line of the show was that cars are, and should be, for fun. (Full disclosure this was often pushed most heavily by James May, but I feel like Jeremy could have said no at any point.) They often lambasted average and everyday use cars.

I loved my old sports car! It was 2 seats and too much power! I had to get rid of it because it was unreliable and unsafe for traveling with my first kid. Neither would have been an issue with good public transit infrastructure in place.

Cars are not the problem, but car dependency absolutely is.

(I don't totally feel this way and do think cars a major contributing factor in some problems, like pollution of microplastic particulates from aggressive driving, but that isn't as quippy.)

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago

His farming ventures have moved his opinion on climate in a positive direction.

It was effecting his vacationing. Hyper fucking privileged.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh yes, great. When it is too late suddenly the fucks who are responsible for this mess have a change of heart and deserve sympathies? Give me a break...

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[–] [email protected] 112 points 3 months ago (3 children)

To those curious, do not check out the original post

Comments are entirely "cloud seeding", "blocking solar radiation with dangerous chemicals", and sensible people arguing for encouraging biodiversity being shut out, a few by Car Man himself

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago

a few by Car Man himself

I was put off until this part. Curiosity is now at high levels. Expecting massive hoop jumping and that's always funny to watch.

[–] verity_kindle 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Telling adults what to do will drive them to do the exact opposite. You tell me what to read, I'll buy Clarkson an aircraft carrier! Don't test me!

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 3 months ago (6 children)

I quite enjoyed Top Gear. However. I have since found Clarkson to be just another rich old right winger that doesn’t care what he says. He’s a bit of an asshole.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That "a bit of" is too nice. Much too nice. Really.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

I mean, that's his appeal in Top Gear, isn't it? Chief arsehole of the three nincompoops.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I suppose he only cares about the climate because it now affects his farming business, that's it.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago

Having watched Clarkson's Farm I think he honestly went into the farming business to test and resolve his opinions on the climate. He still loves cars but uses the car persona to look at farming practices.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The only reason Clarkson is still well liked is because he is funny and charismatic. But over all he is still an arch-conservative Tory jerk.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (2 children)

for sure. I love him as a TV persona, but definitly feel he and I would NOT get along in person.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 3 months ago

Considering his opinion on diesels that's actually a pretty scathing insult.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yes, a foot constantly on a gas pedal

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

This one might have more to do with pesticides.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The solution is obviously more oil drilling.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago

I saw a butterfly in my yard a few days ago and I just stared at it and realized that I don't think I've seen one in years.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago (7 children)

Fuck Jeremy Clarkson

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago

Leopards out there?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago (5 children)

I used to see so many monarch butterflies when I was a kid in Indiana. So many fireflies too. I don't think I've seen a single monarch since I moved back about a decade ago and hardly any fireflies.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I never understood the appeal of this show or its hosts.

[–] can 34 points 3 months ago (7 children)

Do you like cars?

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[–] funkless_eck 25 points 3 months ago

ignoring the subject matter and the real life behavior of the hosts - it was cozy, entertaining, TV that was well structured and generally amenable and fun

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

Some people like to see others who are enthusiastic about something and are having fun.

Like I have never seen Lancia in real life and I still get engrossed watching Clarkson talk about their history: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1RKpdFjE4I

Also, speaking of hosts, James May >>> other two bellends.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

Butterflies ate my face

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