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[–] [email protected] 130 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Looks like he...

🕶️

Dodged a bullet...

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Queue loud song by The Who...

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago

YEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (5 children)
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[–] [email protected] 41 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Now I'm very curious. It looks like the question revolves around how, exactly, the police got a hold of the ammunition involved?

Did cops try to frame a guilty man?

Is Alec Baldwin the new OJ?

[–] [email protected] 113 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

The prosecution brought an envelope of bullets into the courtroom but had never notified the defense they had them. That would be a BIG fucking 'nope' in any court case.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

That's so fucking stupid it makes me question whether they intentionally tanked the case. This aspect of evidence disclosure is literally covered in My Cousin Vinny: https://youtu.be/uaoymfY9Kw0

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

Now I’m very curious. It looks like the question revolves around how, exactly, the police got a hold of the ammunition involved?

Were you not 'very curious' enough to actually look at literally any of the real and active reporting on this before your comment?

There was no question as to 'how, exactly, the police got a hold of the ammunition involved' and it is a core fact among the details of why case was dismissed.

They even played the officer's bodycam footage of an early formal interview of the former officer that brought the bullets in as evidence (that the officer on the stand pitifully tried to pretend wasn't an interview) in which the prosecutor was present. The evidence was intentionally filed under another case number so it wouldn't be associated with Baldwin's case (or the Reed case that I believe was ongoing when it was actually brought in). And THEN, cherry on top, they also discovered while looking at the undisclosed bullet evidence in this court, despite the prosecutors claims that the bullets were not associated with the Rust set thus not counted as evidence, that there were matching bullets of the type that were on the Rust set.

Some link to this as the moment the case fully unraveled: https://www.youtube.com/live/0VEoEvcJNhE?t=28995s

Where the prosecutor has put herself on the stand and opened herself up to answering defense questions under oath: https://www.youtube.com/live/0VEoEvcJNhE?t=32578s

It's among the craziest prosecutorial malfeasance shit I've ever seen from a high profile, video recorded court proceeding. One prosecutor resigned and LEFT earlier in the day as things were unraveling, and then the prosecutor that was still there put herself on the stand as-a-prosecution-witness to give testimony about the bullets, which even allowed the defense to question her about witness statements that she called Baldwin a cocksucker, about witness statements that she called Baldwin an arrogant prick, and about witness statements that she would 'teach him a lesson'. In the context of a lawyer, putting oneself on the witness stand as a lawyer in the case, even as a prosecutor, is mental breakdown levels of personal desperation, even if they want to claim it was an attempt to preserve an appeal of the dismissal.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Glad he got off. I always thought it was bullshit that anyone would try to hold him accountable. The weapons expert, yes. The actor who was told the prop was safe, hell no.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Yes and no. The circumstances surrounding the death were… Not great. Evidence of Baldwin playing with the weapon, pretending to fire it, aiming it at cast and crew, etc… Plus there’s the whole “they were filming during a strike, and Baldwin (who was also the executive producer) went out of his way to hire an unqualified scab as a weapons master” part of things too.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

The armouror was a scab? That's the first I'm hearing of that. Do you have a link?

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There were no details, what evidence was withheld?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It's just baffling that even "fake guns" are so dangerous.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (9 children)

They're not fake guns; they're real guns with what was supposed to be fake ammo. Because the gun in question was a revolver, the ammo must also look real since you can see the tips of the bullets in the cylinder. Typically, there's a hole in the side of the casing indicating that it's a dummy round, but you can no longer see that once it's been loaded into the gun.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Because the gun in question was a revolver, the ammo must also look real

I have seen so much bad science, like basic physics mistakes, in movies that that's not really true. The average movie goer isn't going to know what the difference between a fake and real revolver by sight.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

Americans may not know our basic physics, but we know our guns you know.

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