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[–] [email protected] 107 points 4 months ago (7 children)

At the same time the small amount of games that don't support Linux also happen to be some of the biggest and most popular ones.

[–] [email protected] 175 points 4 months ago (3 children)
[–] themoonisacheese 14 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Good même but you can very much run lol on Linux. It's weird around the edges especially in the launcher but it's definitely playable.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Didn't they transition it to the same kernel-level antichest that Valorant uses? IIRC, that anticheat absolutely refuses to let you run it on Linux.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

AFAIK there is a work around to run MacOS in a VM and run the Mac client which doesn't have kernel anti cheat, but meh, why bother?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

Yeah, but it is a PITA to setup a MacOS VM. Even if you get it working, it will probably be unsupported in a year or 2 because of Apple Silicon. All that effort just to play league lmao

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

They switched the ac to use the vanguard kernel level ac so the workaround doesn't work anymore.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Good thing I don't play mtx/fomo games.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (6 children)

It's more competitive ones. And yes, I know they come with that shit too but not all FOMO games are pvp games and Linux has plenty of working multiplayer games with that shit.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Tbh neither do I, Debian runs all the games I personally want. My point is its not for everyone.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago

Oh noes, my lootboxes!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

At the same time the small amount of games that don't support Linux also happen to be some of the biggest and most popular ones.

Minecraft? CS2? Dota 2?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Frankly the only game I haven't been able to play (besides a couple of old MMO private servers I couldn't get running) has been Fortnite, and there's frankly no reason it shouldn't run on Linux already, Epic just sucks

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It doesn't run because Tim Sweeny is a salty jerk who had one negative interaction with a Linux user (the Linux user just posted a rice and he was pissed he couldn't do that on Windows)

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 4 months ago (14 children)

Linux gamer for 3+ years now. I rarely, rarely have any issues with anything at all, and most of those are solved by switching to Proton GE or Experimental. Most of the time I think stuff actually runs better than on Windows.

But to be clear, I don't really play anything multiplayer. The sole exceptions like Civ VI have worked perfectly fine, but my understanding is that a big reason these larger multiplayer games don't work is their anticheat.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago

Yep. For games, it is usually some crappy anticheat, for other applications (outside games) it is crappy licence managers. Or really, really inept programmers. Professionally inept programmers.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

I'm about a year in. One interesting thing is that older games seem to work better with Proton than they do on Windows. For example, after installing Psychonauts on Windows I had to Google why it wouldn't load and try a few ini changes until I found what worked. On Linux, I just started it and it worked with no issues.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

Been gaming on linux for the better part of last couple of decades, can agree its in a muhc better place now and its a rarety to find a title that doesn't work through proton. There are some but not a massive amount.

Kinda ironic but out of the ones that don't work for proton, sometimes they work via wine instead

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

And some games want an older version of Proton (like River City Girls), so it's not always intuitive what the fix might be, but there's several options to improve compatibility, these days.

Now that ntsync has been added to the upstream kernel for the next release, it will only get better.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Damn near anything good works under proton. Cyberpunk 2077 is basically flawless out of the box. No issues with a lot of other newer games.

Ironically some of the older ones like Fallout 3 need a little bit of hackery to get the radio working

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don’t understand this infographic at all…

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think I got it.

The right side is showing what percentage of games can be played at each level. Platinum is flawless, and borked is... borked. The percentages below that show that 84% of games are super playable, 95% if you're willing to settle for silver.

The outside ring is the one that shows these percentages.

I'm still unsure of the center rings though.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Proton is like magic. I remember when gaming on Linux only worked for some rather old games. Now you can almost buy anything from Steam and expect it to work on Linux. What surprised me the most was that even Enderal, an excellent total conversion mod for Skyrim, just worked. The same goes for the newest Hitman. I expected that I have to do some tinkering, but no. You click play and that is it. I doubt that any of these games where ever tested on Linux by their developers. That they all work so well shows how good of a job the developers of Proton, DXVK, and Wine are doing.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago (3 children)

You don't want to count Silver as working well. Still incredible though.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (9 children)

Out of everything i play, the only game holding me back is Destiny 2, which was explicitly refused support for.

Everything else works phenomenally well, and in some rare cases, performs a lot better.

The only struggle point is heavily modded games with tools that assume i’m doing this on windows, but times are changing too

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (5 children)

I was so surprised that I was able to get Genshin running on my steam deck through wine. I remember when the deck came out, everyone was saying that games that use anti cheat software wouldn't work on the deck. But both Genshin and Elden Ring work on the deck.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I think Genshin removed their anticheat after it was used by ransomware

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

that use anti cheat software wouldn't work on the deck

Not all anti cheat mechanisms are the same, but the worst ones are kernel-hooking ones for multiple reasons. Besides security, stability and privacy issues with them they also have compatibility issues with any OS they weren't built specifically for

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (11 children)

72% platinum and gold, 86% plat, gold and silver. I'm honestly surprised that this isn't higher because almost everything I play just works (I do have a lot of random games in my account from humble bundles and such, so I don't even play a good amount of them).

Funny enough what I've been playing recently is Minecraft. Downloaded the Prism launcher, linked my account, installed the game and the BetterMC modpack which includes pretty heavy lighting shaders, get an easy 120fps with absolutely zero tinkering besides telling the game to use my systems OpenAL rather than the bundled one, as that was causing a crash. I do have a relatively beefy system so the performance isn't what I'm impressed by, moreso the fact that this was all up and running in 5 minutes.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

A lot of reports on ProtonDB are ancient. I would say literally 99% of games work nowadays out of the box.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ok, Minecraft is in Java though, cross-platform per default.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (5 children)

For me it's less positive, but still quite impressive!

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

I'm not sure why, but playing Final Fantasy XIV worked better in Linux using Wine than it did on Windows. There's a joke about net code in the game such that all effects take a half second or so to register, so there's always a little lag for better or worse.

On Linux, somehow things just registered when they happened on screen. Took getting used to!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

I launched might and magic 9 on my steam deck and it fucking worked straight away. It's a 2002 game that was barely working even back then. I didn't have to do anything today get it to work. SHIT JUST WORKS

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago

Just link your account at Protondb and go to the dashboard. https://www.protondb.com/dashboard

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Borked is Destiny 2 and Wildstar (whose servers are permanently offline)

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Too bad this apparently only counts Steam games. Lately, I've been trying to use GOG (because no DRM) whenever possible.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

"why doesn't my recently released porn game work under proton" mfers when they realize they can't tell other people they're trying to play porn games on linux.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 months ago

Usually games that require some shitty anti-cheat.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago

Games where the devs actively reject Linux support.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

%1 Chromebook Ready😂😂

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

79% gold and platinum, 87% platinum gold and silver, I've definitely played a number of "not supported" (or too early access to be on proton db). Of 1405 games I'd say I'm set for life

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The site is https://www.protondb.com/ if you want to check your own library.

Can you use that site to see which of your games fall into each category? I've got a few in the red bronze and silver, but it would be nice to see at a glance which of them it is.

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