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I said a while back that I was gonna change my name due to my obscene displeasure with the final season but... nah. I'm Stamets. I love my lil gay boy and I love his lil gay family and I love the ship with the weirdly long nacelles.

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[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

I have a feeling you're going to get a lot of use out of this template.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Coming back to this 2 days later and its still funny as fuck. I need to finish Disco.

[-] [email protected] 84 points 1 week ago
[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

LD being canon takes away some of the sting of Disco being canon. Since it's so far in the future the last 3 seasons can also easily be ignored.

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[-] [email protected] 71 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Stamets is great. I love him.

I love a LOT of the characters on discovery, but I just found the story arcs it ended up telling very... Overblown.

Did the disco really have to save the literal galaxy every season? And skip across time so it could be placed into a pivotal role in every era?

Not a single time, not once, did the disco feel like just another ship in the fleet. It was always THE ship.

Season one is still the best IMO, with the disco being a secret research program hijacked by Lorca for his own purposes. The story felt right. But then the ship and crew just kept being extraordinary not just every season, but in every tiny moment.

I really love all the worldbuilding in Trek, but in disco that always played second fiddle to whatever crisis was going on, which the disco would then inevitably resolve. It was yawn-inducing to me.

Even as I adored lots of the small stuff the series did with the style, characters, and world.

Like Stamets!

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

Your comments put into words how I felt about the show. It was one major calamity after another. I might go back and finish because of Stamets, Culber (love Wilson Cruz), and everyone else.

I do like Strange New Worlds a lot. It is less frenetic

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[-] [email protected] 45 points 1 week ago

Ah, canon, or the word we use to describe which made-up story is more real than the other made-up stories!

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

Anything I personally don't enjoy isn't Canon.

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[-] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago

Modern Star Trek has its ups and downs. I’m just glad there’s so much of it. Discovery can have a weird National Treasure season, and Picard can have a bumpy Covid year, but there’s probably something interesting going on in Lower Decks or Strange New Worlds. (Or vice versa.)

I’m just happy characters like Stamets weren’t a one off experiment. It’s delightful to see queer folk continue to pop up in the main cast of other shows.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

This analogy doesn't work because Lower Decks never misses, making it the only star trek with no bad seasons

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Lower Decks never misses unless you’re one of those folks with the Trek equivalent of the cilantro soap gene who just can’t get on board with an animated comedy show.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago

I have two opinions that have not changed since 2016:

First, Discovery, as Star Trek and as science fiction in general, is terrible. Great ideas destroyed by some of the worst writing and direction in the industry.

I will not be taking any questions.

And second, in spite of that, Paul Stamets as a character is one of my favorite in Star Trek. (After the shrooms mellowed him out, of course.)

I'm glad you're sticking with your nick, it suits you and it's a good one to have.

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[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

Doesn’t hurt as much as LD confirming that Threshold wasn’t just Tom Paris’ fever dream.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

LD takes sadistic pleasure in making sure to confirm all the worst episodes are canon.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

Hell yeah dude!

All the characters in disco are amazing, it’s the main plot that gets ridiculous sometimes.

Don’t let bad writing ruin a great cast!

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

I mean i'm not a fan of the series as a whole but i'm absolutely here for psycho dwight harry mud

[-] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

Hurts fans and disrespects canon. There's a reason why it abbreviates so nicely to STD.

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[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

I like a lot of the characters. I just dislike the plot and writing. Stamets fucks.

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

i feel like the answer to what is and isn't canon can be summed up with;

Why do the klingons look different?

They always looked like that, you just didn't notice before.

Canon has always been squishy. The Eugenics Wars takes place in the nineteen-nineties... oh but didn't Voyager's crew visit our nineties? Plus, DISCO had that Elon Musk name drop.

...so the timeline floats up as the present day does. Canon is just a vague sense of the things everyone agrees on.


I really dislike the fungus engine. You expect me to believe the Federation developed instant, consequence free warp but gave up on using it on literally any other ship? Silly. Very silly. Oh, but the precursor civilization doing a galaxy wide Genesis project is somehow an unimaginable technological feat.

And yes, I know STE covers the klingon flu. I just think They always looked like that was more elegant.

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[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Well I haven't even looked at it yet. The feedback of it from you guys is so bad I started deep space nine a second time before I went to discovery.

[-] the_crotch 9 points 1 week ago

If you haven't seen Babylon 5, give that a shot. It's great. It's gritty like the good episodes of ds9 with none of the fluff.

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[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I really enjoyed most of Discovery. Especially all the genuine queer representation, that shit was overdue. And Michael is a hell of a character, great but flawed and so on.

I just wish the spore drive didn't require the ship to spin around and make silly noises. That alone is responsible for a good 50% of the cringing I did while watching the series.

Doesn't hold a candle to DS9 in most respects tho, which I started rewatching after getting two episodes into the final season of Discovery

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

AAaaargghh! Medical emergency!

Give me 20 units of TOS immediately

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'll prescribe you 2 hours of Benjamin Sisko's e nun ci ation. S.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Fine but I want a bottle of McCoy's scotch with it.

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Stamets. Both you and the character rock.
The first time I tried to watch D I wasn’t sure; but the second time through he has really grown on me.
You and the stuff you’ve said on here as well. You seem like a hoopy frood

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)


Discovery isn't for everyone but that's fine. Not every Trek is going to hit you right. Not everyone is going to enjoy every piece of media. Some things are made for other groups of people. Discovery happens to fall in that category but it's just as much a part of Trek as DS9 and TNG.

The Trek universe exists with so much diversity, from the people to the planets. Why can't the shows?

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