The US having child marriage is one of the many shitty things about this country. We must change this urgently. It's fucking shitty and serves no greater purpose.
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Pedophilia, slavery, and corpo-kleptocracy: the pillars of American patriots
Sometimes, when I think of this, I think about that civil war they want.
Instead, the Republicans are now pushing for an end to no fault divorce.
It’s fucking shitty and serves no greater purpose.
Of course it serves a greater purpose, in the eyes of those who are in favour of it, otherwise they wouldn't want to keep/extend it.
Keeping women and girls in subservient vulnerable positions, and men satisfied and in positions of power (even if it's only within their own home, where they get to then take their rage and frustration at having no real power elsewhere out on their wives and children), is what the patriarchy is all about.
It also serve capitalism, in that the girls in these marriages are much more likely to be kept in the abusive relationship and have more kids than average, kids who will become workers (E: with both parent and children being home schooled by their respective parent or "educated" by the church, making them more easy to manipulate and exploit).
It also serves christofascist white supremacy, which has manufactured racist nonsense like "the great replacement" theory to ensure fundamentalists only marry and reproduce within the group, ensuring its survival.
None of these things are bugs, they are features of these systems, and until as a society we confront that, we will never be able to tear them down and be free.
Things are (way too slowly) getting better:
As of June 2024, 13 states have banned underage marriages, with no exception: Delaware (2018),[2]New Jersey (2018),[3] Pennsylvania (2020),[4]Minnesota (2020),[5] Rhode Island (2021),[6] New York (2021),[7] Massachusetts (2022),[8] Vermont(2023),[9] Connecticut (2023),[10] Michigan(2023),[11] Washington (2024),[12] Virginia (2024)[13] and New Hampshire (2024).[14] American Samoa, U.S. Virgin Islands, and Puerto Rico, all United States territories, have also ended child marriage in that time.[15][16] Several other U.S. states have similar legislation pending.[17]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_marriage_in_the_United_States
How the hell does California, a relatively progressive state compared to many of the other US ones, still allow child marriages? I’m sure it’s those pockets of deep red outside the big cities.
I looked it up, the ACLU said it "unnecessarily intrudes on the fundamental rights of marriage without due cause" and fought prior attempts to legislate against it. Planned Parenthood were against it because they said it was a slippery slope that might affect abortion rights (I didn't see rational for this supplied but assume they have some)
So it wasn't Hollywood as the other poster glibly asserted, actually movies like 'childbrides of the ozarks' were important in brining it to popular attention and helping initial pushes against it. Currently there are democrats pushing for legislation to ban in, supported in many case by the 'evil Hollywood elites' as seen from conspiracy theory world as they're big donors and fund raisers for democratic causes but also ACLU and PP so possibly yeah they were slightly involved in the ban being resisted but not in the way suggested.
The ACLU have since chances their stance on child marriage, I imagine planned parenthood have too but I couldn't find that stated. Most current resistance is coming from religious focused Republicans.
Most current resistance is coming from religious focused Republicans.
Yep, that’s on brand for sure.
Hollywood. Think about it.
Blessed good news.
I really have to wonder who is down voting this comment.
Sometimes I upvote/downvote posts and comments on accident while scrolling... I might be giving people too much credit though.
Happens to me too. When I notice, I'm mortified.
Same for me! The majority of the times I've noticed it is when I happen to scroll past the same post/comment a second time, so I wonder how many I haven't "corrected it"?
There is some very pathetic person who goes through my post history and just downvotes every comment regardless of what is said, meaning they have downvoted me doing things like telling someone I sympathize with them or even just me thanking someone. It's bizarre. People think internet points matter on Lemmy when they didn't even matter on Reddit where a tally was being kept.
Did a quick run through of your last two days and it’s all different people.
Or is it different troll accounts that keep getting banned?
Could be that too lol.
Another not so fun fact is that once the child is married their new spouse is now their guardian. So the child has to have their guardian sign off on legal issues like divorce, or wait till they are of legal age.
50 years ago I was living with a guy who decided to beat me one night. After he fell asleep I walked over to the emergency clinic to get checked out. But because I wasn't 18, and neither of my parents lived in the same province as I did, the hospital made me go back home to get my 18 yr old boyfriend's signature ... so the guy who just kicked the shit out of me had to give the hospital permission to help me.
What the fuck is wrong with US? It feels like I'm leaving a comment like this way too often... What the fuck?
Most of the countries in the world have exceptions to the legal marriage age being set at 18+. Most allow 16 and up, many as low an 12. This exception is for when the parents consent to the marriage. This is in line with the US. So this issue is a world issue.
Marriage at the age of consent (which is usually 16) is not a problem, forced arranged marriage is.
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More time I spend on internet, more it feels every government is the same.
Every US government is the same indeed. But the life outside the US is very different.
If you heard as much about Korea, Singapore, Australia, Slovakia, or anywhere else then you'd say the same about them too. Not diminishing the problems in the US but the rest of the world is nuts too.
Well, as someone who doesn't live in the US, I don't see such high concentrations of utter nonsense from anywhere else.
I don't live in the USA either but I'm here on lemmy where most news is American and all the social media is the same. Korea as one of.my examples has had a strimg of absolutely horrendous rape and abuse scandals which would rival epstine but they're pretty much unknown in western media and discourse. Australian politics likewise is a total dumpster fire that barely registers beside American and European news, some people vaguely know about the guy that got firebombed for reporting on corruption because he was a YouTuber but there's endless insanity going on which barely gets a mention in ozzy news let alone international news, and even if it did no one would read it or talk about it like we do with American news.
That's different though. Dumb shit happens everywhere, but the US is one of the few places where that dumb shit is legal and systemic.
I really think if you learned more about the world you'd be incredibly shocked at how crazy it is
Canada is racing to catch up.
It is amazing how every country can see the decline of America. And then politicians pop up in other countries imitating what American politicians have done for years.
They advocate for privatizing healthcare, deregulating businesses, and other American policies which we already know the result of. Using the exact same arguments as the American politicians. People still fall for it and vote in those populists. Of course no left wing politician ever mentions that the populist talking points are the exact same as we have heard from America.
What the fuck is wrong with humans?
Its not a human rights violation in the US because the US is the only member of the UN that never ratified the UN convention on the rights of the child.
Close to 300,000 minors were married between 2000 and 2018 in the US, according to a study conducted by Unchained at Last
Well that's not so bad, I best most of them married someone who is also a minor...
78% of minors who wed in that timespan were girls with adult husbands
Oh, shit.
A LOT of insular religious communities and congregations use it to "make right" cases of sexual assault and rape - since the Bible specifically says if someone rapes your daughter, the rapist has to marry them.
The US government calls child marriage a human rights abuse [...] has committed up to $5.3m to prevent it “in regions, countries, and communities where interventions are most needed and most likely to achieve results”
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Close to 300,000 minors were married between 2000 and 2018 in the US [...]; a small number of them were as young as 10.
The cognitive dissonance in the US is almost physically painful.
It's like all they know is projection..
How about just passing a federal law stating the minimum age to be 18?
The reps from the states where it isn't illegal would vote against it. No points for guessing their political affiliation.
Indeed they would. And then you can call them child molesters without shame, they have proven it.
Woah there buddy. California is not one to swing that way. I bet majority of Californians don't even know about not having an age limit just like I learned today by reading the article.
You mean Republicans who want to keep it legal.
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