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Hours after a battle in eastern Ukraine in August, a wounded and unarmed Russian soldier crawled through a nearly destroyed trench, seeking help from his captors, a unit of international volunteers led by an American.

Caspar Grosse, a German medic in that unit, said he saw the soldier plead for medical attention in a mix of broken English and Russian. It was dusk. A team member looked for bandages.

That is when, Mr. Grosse said, a fellow soldier hobbled over and fired his weapon into the Russian soldier’s torso. He slumped, still breathing. Another soldier fired — “just shot him in the head,” Mr. Grosse recalled in an interview.

Mr. Grosse said he was so upset by the episode that he confronted his commander. He said he spoke to The New York Times after what he regarded as unwarranted killings continued. It is highly unusual for a soldier to speak publicly about battlefield conduct, particularly involving men whom he still considers friends.

The shooting of the unarmed, wounded Russian soldier is one of several killings that have unsettled the Chosen Company, one of the best-known units of international troops fighting on behalf of Ukraine.

Mr. Grosse’s witness recollection is the only available evidence of the trench killing. But his accounts of other episodes are bolstered by his contemporaneous notes, video footage and text messages exchanged by members of the unit and reviewed by The Times.

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[-] [email protected] 53 points 1 week ago

Much respect to that German medic for coming forward. This is blatantly unacceptable, though some will idolize and immortalize actions like this akin to Speirs' actions from Easy Company...

Reminds me of those Australian soldiers, too.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

I'm not surprised they were German, to be honest. Children learn from a rather young age what the Nazis did and that it should never be allowed to happen again. Development of an ethical consciousness is an important part of upbringing. It's definitely not "the enemy must be destroyed no matter what" like in the US.

(Too bad they can't see the beam in their own eyes when it comes to support for apartheid Israel 🤷‍♂️)

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

To some, they can only see at a short-sighted, shallow level that, "Hamas attacked Israel" and think no further. The same folks who only thought so far as, "Al Qaeda attacked us on 9/11" and therefore gave a blank slate to anything thereafter...

[-] [email protected] 38 points 1 week ago

I hope the UAF strictly discipline those who did this. They've disgraced their entire country.

[-] [email protected] -4 points 1 week ago

Allegedly.

Mr. Grosse’s witness recollection is the only available evidence of the trench killing.

[-] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago

But his accounts of other episodes are bolstered by his contemporaneous notes, video footage and text messages exchanged by members of the unit and reviewed by The Times.

He is confirmed reliable witness for other episodes, so there is good reason to believe him here too.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

But his accounts of other episodes are bolstered by his contemporaneous notes, video footage and text messages exchanged by members of the unit and reviewed by The Times.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

What motive would he have to lie about this?

[-] JohnDClay 35 points 1 week ago

Treating surrending Russians well helps Ukraine since it encourages more Russians to surrender.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

This is unacceptable and anyone doing this should see the full weight of the law

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

I lost all hope in humanity reading the Reddit comment section on this topic.

  1. He sold his ass to Putin

  2. NYT is a Russian propaganda

  3. Russian soldier did not follow Geneva Convention so it was ok to execute him

  4. Russians are violent pigs beyond saving. They should be exterminated.

[-] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago
[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

This strikes me more as the raw hate of continuous war. If you’re american, read the later events of the civil war as it dragged on; the civility wore away and mass slaughter became the norm.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

No, it's a simple war propaganda

[-] ZombiFrancis 4 points 1 week ago

I'm sorry but you're not going to get a unit of foreign fighters together and not expect some onion layer of warcrime.

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