538

Oklahoma schools head Ryan Walters: Teachers who won't teach Bible could lose license (www.nbcnews.com)

submitted 1 week ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

166 comments fedilink hide all child comments

(page 2) 50 comments

sorted by: hot top controversial new old

[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Any of you remember Kitzmiller v. Dover? It was a case that essentially ruled that teaching ID/creationism was a theological doctrine and thus couldn't be included in the biology curriculum of schools across the country. While the issues here at not the same (teaching creationsim vs mandatory bible studies), they have the same ideological underpinnings. Unless we're talking about Sunday school*, schools must remain secular institutions where discussions of religions are from a neutral perspective in regards to the humanities. As to regards to a hypothetical Supreme Court case: considering how ultra-conservative the Supreme Court has become in recent years, I fear that they might side the theocrats.

*Are those still a thing?

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Every time Democrats have an opportunity to increase the number of seats on the SCOTUS, they punt.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Short of congress impeaching Supreme Court members (which they can do), it seems the only real answer is to just expand it so that it has so many seats, it is effectively as useless as congress.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Or begin federally indicting Justices, but I find that even less likely

load more comments (3 replies)

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Sunday school is not a public institution, which is why it gets a pass. Similarly private schools are free to do this all week long.

I think even this supreme Court would rule the correct way. I wouldn't be surprised if it were even unanimous, but at worst I'd expect the 6/3 split with Thomas, Goraych, and Alito. There's only so far they can go when the Constitution was very blatantly clear on this matter.

load more comments (2 replies)

[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

Oh I can’t wait for the lawsuits to follow this bullshit.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

I'm still pissed we are spending tax payer money defending this shit. We are doing something similar in La.

load more comments (5 replies)

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

So it can get to the Supreme Court and be overturned there?

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

The Superintenant of OK apparently stated plainly that he believes Trump's appointment to the SC were specifically done to protect states doing this.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Looking at recent decisions, it's going to go badly for those of us who believe in the anti-establishment clause.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Congress shall make no law, this actually could be interpreted quite literally by the courts that it is perfectly acceptable for a state to not only establish a religion but to criminalize other beliefs.

I think this would be a 5-4 decision with SCOTUS. I think Barrett would be against it, because she is Catholic and would see that her beliefs may not be the ones promoted. Kavanaugh and Roberts could be a toss up.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Kavenaugh has been better than expected (still bad). Actually, all of the Trump appointments have been less-bad than Alito, Thomas, and Scalia. If it weren't for the fact that Kavenaugh replaced Kennedy and Barret RBG it wouldn't be so bad.

The good news is that the next 2 up for replacement are probably Thomas and Alito. If we can hold onto the White House we may be able to unfuck this.

load more comments (1 replies)

[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

And this is the same cunt that was blaming "the radical left" for "politicizing" the death of a child under his care. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/23/us/oklahoma-nonbinary-student-superintendent.html

[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

Today we read again from fiction.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

I'd love to see parents flabbergasted by their children refusing the shellfish daddy worked hard to buy, and making sure their clothes don't use mixed fabrics.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Then teach the parts of Isaiah which show clearly he held in contempt the people, of his day, who were doing what the "Jews" who convicted benJoseph, did, & what the "Christians" who identify as Republicans are doing now.

Teach how benJoseph called biblical-legalists "Hypocrites!" right in the bible.

Teach them all the things in their own bible which identify the "Christian" fascism as being the enemy of their own root-guru/Christ.

Here is Isaiah 1 from their bible, so you can see that what Moses fought against a couple millenia earlier ( if one happens to remember that stuff from other readings ), happens this time not within the people of Egypt, but within the Israelites..

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=isaiah+1&version=AMP

Obviously, now it's happening within the "Christians".

Notice, here, that nearly-all teachings on Hypocrites! are in the New Testament..

https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=hypocrite&version=AMP

& here is a phrase, right in their bible, of the whole "they call themselves Jews, but are gaslighting" sentiment,

which, as anybody with integrity would understand, is an accusation which can be placed on many of ANY human religion, including the Dharmic religions ( including my own beloved Vajrayana ), including the Abrahamic religions, including the people who claim Science but embody/enforce Scientism's gaslighting, etc..

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+2%3A9&version=AMP

It is a particular kind of dishonesty, and it isn't limited-to any tradition or culture, no matter how convenient to some ideologies that would be.

Find all the parts of the bible that contradict the gaslighters who call themselves "Christian", & teach only those bits.

WHEN teaching the now-legally-required-in-some-jurisdictions "10 Commandments", add this & discuss how this applies to the people who legislate in our countries:

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James+2%3A10&version=AMP

"Those who live by the sword, die by the sword".

Turn their own book's honest-truths against their falseness.

_ /\ _

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

I am sorry no. I don’t want this garbage taught in schools.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Pretty messed up of Ryan.

load more comments (2 replies)

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Can that head of schools lose his license for demanding this bullshit that only leads into the next dark age?

load more comments

this post was submitted on 29 Jun 2024

538 points (98.9% liked)

News

21741 readers

3372 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil

Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.

2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.

Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.

3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.

Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.

4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.

Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.

5. Only recent news is allowed.

Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.

6. All posts must be news articles.

No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.

7. No duplicate posts.

If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.

8. Misinformation is prohibited.

Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.

9. No link shorteners.

The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.

10. Don't copy entire article in your post body

For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago

MODERATORS

[email protected]